published Sunday, June 24th, 2012

Consent still works

Taxation without representation was the protest offered during the 1750's and 60's that lit the fuse of the American Revolution.

Unwanted taxation was the centerpiece of the argument by foes of annexation attempts in recent months by the city of Chattanooga.

The words, now approaching 236 years of age, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed ... " resulted from a belief in a nation being born out of adversity that individuals were having their wealth and labor confiscated.

North Dakota has earned significant media coverage in recent months with more than 900 billion barrels of proven reserves of oil in place. Compare that to the Persian Gulf with 747 billion of proven oil reserves, according to the U.S. Department of State.

The discovery and extraction of oil in the state that borders Canada, which supplies almost 20 percent of America's imported oil, has created a little problem for North Dakota, whose nickname "The Peace Garden State" easily could change based on its new-found resource and the "more than 20,000 job openings statewide" advertised on its website.

It seems having new oil revenues of $839 million in fiscal year 2011 alone, with an expected total to exceed $2 billion in 2012 and 2013 combined, has created a stir among the citizens with the $5 billion surplus in a swollen state treasury.

Citizens want property tax relief. With land values increasing due to mineral rights, property taxes have been escalating. Citizens have just had a referendum to completely abolish the state's property tax, which annually gathers about $800 million from property owners, according to the New York Times and humanevents.com. Despite the failure of the statewide vote, elected officials have heard enough from voters encouraging consumption and sales taxes.

Interestingly, the unusual coalition that led in the referendum's defeat was comprised of the North Dakota Chamber of Commerce and the North Dakota Public Employees Association.

A few lessons from the High Plains: America has resources to serve our needs, such as energy, that can be responsibly used for consumption, job creation and prosperity. Further, the "consent of the governed" is not a phrase that's shelved in history for a bygone era. Finally, the best funding mechanism for governments comes from economic growth, not penalties of the productive and their property.

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Without Representation is the key. Now it seems to be, even with Representation, you still want people to have absolute consent.

That really won't work. There's a reason why unanimous votes are rarely required.

And since I recall quite a few declarations that people need to have some skin in the game, it's funny that you seem to want people to subside for free...before ending the game. Why is that?

But 900 billion barrels? According to who? What are you doing, counting Oil Shale reserves which may not be feasibly extractable?

Way to completely fudge up a large number just for the sake of your own agenda. I'm sure you think that every last potential drop will be claimed, as you have some idealistic idea that the demand will escalate, but that's like the fool trying to get paid with exponential amounts of rice on a checkerboard. Reality trumps the ideal model.

Besides, what you seem to be wanting is for North Dakota to tax the rest of the world. How does that work? Do you expect that to last in perpetuity? Isn't that without representation?

June 24, 2012 at 12:26 a.m.
Livn4life said...

Good for North Dakota and happy we are waiting for you to authentically disprove the 900 billion barrel projection. What left wing propagator will you bring up to dispute it?

June 24, 2012 at 2:10 p.m.
Easy123 said...

You don't have to disprove it. It's an estimate. They have to prove it before someone can disprove it.

June 24, 2012 at 2:16 p.m.

Sorry, Livn4life, I was waiting for the source of that number first. Notice how the Department of State was cited for one ( though they would just be repeating somebody else's).

But OK, here's one:

http://bismarcktribune.com/bakken/continental-ups-n-d-state-oil-estimate/article_aa059f94-a548-11e1-9429-001a4bcf887a.html

Stark said his company believes there are more than 900 billion barrels of oil in place, but only between 3 percent and 5 percent is actually recoverable with today’s technology.

Continental’s numbers are much more aggressive than the research compiled by the U.S. Geological Survey, which might have had top billing in the session lineup, but didn’t provide the most sought-after information.

So let's see, less than 10 percent recoverable? Why didn't this editorial mention that?

Notice how it is believed, not proven?

Your facile distortions of the truth only discredit you. But I'm sure you feel so terribly persecuted at being called a liar.

June 24, 2012 at 2:22 p.m.
conservative said...

"North Dakota has earned significant media coverage in recent months with more than 900 billion barrels of proven reserves of oil in place. Compare that to the Persian Gulf with 747 billion of proven oil reserves, according to the U.S. Department of State"

Proven oil reserves in North Dakota greater than the Persian Gulf!

Sounds like a great campaign issue to me.

June 24, 2012 at 4:07 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Conservative,

See happywithnewbulbs post at 2:22 p.m.

June 24, 2012 at 4:44 p.m.

Good idea, campaign on a lie.

Wait, that's already Mitt Romney's plan.

June 24, 2012 at 4:53 p.m.
conservative said...

Hmm, citizens wanting tax relief, Obamination wanting tax increases.

Looking forward to vote on that.

June 24, 2012 at 5:44 p.m.
Easy123 said...

What tax increases are you speaking of specifically?

June 24, 2012 at 5:56 p.m.

Well, there's the GOP plan.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/20/502695/gop-budget-tax-study/

How you like that, who gets the most benefit again?

June 24, 2012 at 6:49 p.m.
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