published Saturday, October 13th, 2012

The smirk that didn't work

No matter how contentious Thursday night's debate between vice presidential candidates Paul Ryan and Joe Biden appeared, no matter how different the policies seemed, ultimately there was very little difference in what they said.

Both men defended U.S. military presence in places that don't threaten American national security. Neither man seriously addressed ways to tackle the debt or cut the massive federal budget. Rep. Ryan criticized the stimulus, only to have Vice President Biden remind him of his letter to the administration begging for stimulus grants for his Wisconsin congressional district. Both men, time and time again, talked about ways to empower the government, rather than empowering the American people to address problems.

It was clear that Biden believed that government has a primary role in choosing the healthcare, education and retirement available to Americans. Ryan, who professes otherwise, certainly failed to articulate those differences in a meaningful way.

Biden's attack on personal retirement accounts was ill-informed and untrue, but Ryan was unwilling to forcefully defend an individual's right to control their own retirement decisions. If he was quick on his feet, Ryan could have pointed out that, if "workers who retired in 2011 had been allowed to invest the employee half of the Social Security payroll tax over their working lifetime, they would retire with more income than if they relied on Social Security," according to the Cato Institute.

The biggest difference wasn't policy, it was demeanor. And that's what this debate will be remembered for -- Vice President Biden's overzealous and, often, disrespectful conduct.

Ultimately, the clear winner was the dentist that glued on Biden's veneers. He got a 90-minute ad for his work as the vice president smiled in amusement, contempt, disbelief, confusion and bewilderment. It seemed the only time Biden's smirk wasn't apparent were the times he interrupted Rep. Ryan or tried to tell the debate's moderator, Martha Raddatz, how to do her job.

Debates are about memorable moments, and this one lacked any particular knockout lines or outrageous gaffes. If anything, the debate will go down in history for its one annoying constant, Biden's grin, which, like Al Gore's endless sighing during a 2000 presidential debate against George W. Bush, might have worked on a more limited basis, but ultimately got very old very fast.

The night, however, wasn't without a major mistake. Vice President Joe Biden claimed that the administration wasn't aware of requests for more security in Libya before the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi. That statement, according to Foreign Policy magazine's website, contradicted "two State Department officials and the former head of diplomatic security in Libya." Biden's attempt to brush off the administration's culpability in the deaths of a U.S. ambassador and three other diplomats is just another in a long line of lies, contradictions and misinformation about the Benghazi attack.

Biden's most compelling point during the debate -- and there were a scant few from which to choose -- was that Iran is simply not a legitimate nuclear threat now, or in the near future. They have yet to produce a nuclear warhead or the delivery system for the nonexistent warhead.

It seems that for Romney and Ryan -- along with many other Republicans -- the threat of a nuclear Iran is a convenient narrative, even if that narrative is rooted more in fantasy than reality. After all, it allows them to justify their resistance to trimming America's bloated defense budget, which, of course, has to please the defense contractors who make up a large portion of the party's donor base for campaign contributions.

Biden managed to continue one constant rallying point for the administration; the idea that the Obama Administration saved the U.S. car industry and, if he had been president, Romney would've let Detroit go bankrupt. It's too bad that both Romney and Ryan remain unwilling to point out the fact that, by trying to save Detroit and so many other industries, Obama let America go bankrupt.

If the debate was measured on biggest American flag lapel pin, Rep. Ryan won. If the debate was scored on condescending chortles, Vice President Biden dominated.

In the end, it's hard to believe that Americans will be better off either way.

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tipper said...

If the best retort to Joe Biden's debate performance was he smirked, chorttled, and was disrespectful, then it is obvious he won on substance. That's what counts. Oh, and by the way, if we are talking disrespect, who was it that called the president a "liar" in his "State of the Union" speech? And who are the people who call him a "socialist," a "communist," and even worse ridiculous names and epithets? No disrespect there, right? Some people really have some very selective memories.

October 13, 2012 at 8:24 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

If Biden smirked a lot it's only because everything that came out of Ryan's mouth was a smirkable remark - either an outright lie or at best a half-truth. I was glad to see Biden be so "rude" as to take command. He was just sick and tired of listening to so much garbage being fed to the American people. The lies, flip-flops, and nonsense that R&R are feeding to the public do not deserve respect. They need to be called out for the self-serving, elitist, anti-middle class crap that they are peddling.

October 13, 2012 at 1:31 p.m.
librul said...

"Eddie Munster" Ryan was even more scary than one would expect. I'm sure women all over America were left shivering in fear.

Biden was just laughing at his opponent's wild and crazy lies. Anyone with a grasp of the issues was laughing right along with Joe.

October 13, 2012 at 8:06 p.m.
CathyB3 said...

Oh, my, my, my. Calling Biden rude???? Remember when that jerk interupted President Obama and called him a liar? You praised that!

October 14, 2012 at 1:22 p.m.
mkelley said...

Worked for me, since when is it bad form to call out B.S.?

October 14, 2012 at 5:32 p.m.
Leaf said...

From the article, "The biggest difference wasn't policy, it was demeanor." - Except that the differences if policy are huge. Have you not been paying attention?

From the article, "If he was quick on his feet, Ryan could have pointed out that, if "workers who retired in 2011 had been allowed to invest the employee half of the Social Security payroll tax over their working lifetime, they would retire with more income than if they relied on Social Security," according to the Cato Institute." - Except that the Cato institute is a notoriously biased source which cherry-picked data for that study. Also if you were quick on your feet you could say that if that same worker retired in 2008 while the stock market was down instead of 2011, he would be living in a cardboard box and eating cat food.

October 15, 2012 at 11:48 a.m.
timbo said...

CathyB3...Two wrongs don't make a right. As you recall, he was vilified by his own party. Biden is nuts.

October 15, 2012 at 3:09 p.m.
moon4kat said...

No difference in policy? Nice try. Let's start from the beginning: 1. Ryan voted for unnecessary, expensive, unbudgeted wars. Ryan wants to repeal Medicare and privatize Social Security. Ryan's "policies" are found in the simplistic, fictional world created by Ayn Rand.
2. Biden wants to keep Medicare, preserve Social Security, and protect the middle class. Biden's policies are grounded in the real world and what will fix real-world problems. He can't believe Ryan is such a callow, clueless, manipulator of the truth. That's why Biden laughed and grimaced. I did, too.

October 15, 2012 at 3:31 p.m.
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