published Thursday, September 6th, 2012

Food stamps a last resource and other letters to the editors

Food stamps a last resource

My husband and I express our support for David Fowler's stand on food stamps, which was misrepresented in an article, Aug. 18, "Fowler claims too many people are on food stamps." Although helping the truly needy is a Christian mandate, there are too many able-bodied Americans who "game" the system. Dependence on government handouts is a form of slavery and leads to loss of dignity and self-worth.

In Acts 6, the Apostles appointed deacons to care for the poor. 2 Thessalonians 3:10 teaches that those able but unwilling to work should not eat.

When Germany collapsed after WWII, food and money were scarce. We ate what Mother grew in her garden. To have bread, we gleaned after farmers who harvested grain.

My father, an engineer, could not find work for a year, but accepted any honest job to support us. The hardship made us stronger and more determined to overcome adverse circumstances.

Welfare and food stamps should be a last resource. No job that is honest is demeaning. Parents who work hard and overcome difficulties send a strong message of self-reliance and independence to their children. Where there is a will, there is a way.

BETTINA KING, Signal Mountain


Readers deserve better editorials

I have been a Free Press reader since the paper was a flier for the Home Stores. One of the virtues of The Times Free Press has been its two editorial sides giving both conservative and liberal viewpoints. Lee Anderson was a talented and discerning writer who seemed to always be fair and articulated his viewpoint succinctly.

To my mind, Drew Johnson has been a disaster. His editorials are long, wordy and often hard to follow. His editorial of Aug. 30 ("The Romney dilemma") was extremely disappointing. He seemed to indicate Republicans would be better off if they did not vote for Romney and therefore let liberals win by default. The readers deserve better than this.

ROBERT MYERS, Ringgold, Ga.


Ann Romney said nothing

It is refreshing to find the snarky Free Press editorialist gushing over Ann Romney's speech to the Republican National Convention.

I, too, was impressed. Mrs. Romney's makeup was perfect. Her eyelashes were works of art. Unlike some of the other speakers, she told no actual lies.

Her purpose was not so much to introduce the public to the real Mitt Romney as to create the impression that there is a real Mitt Romney. A secondary effort was to suggest that Republicans identify with working-class women. Her expecting this to succeed only shows how sheltered she must be.

With lame humor and real or manufactured sincerity, she touched upon all the favorite convention clichés: young love, struggle, faith, determination, ultimate victory, the convenient immigrant ancestor. It could have been vaguely inspiring, unless one listened.

But in truth, she said nothing. She did not steal the show but only bamboozled the convention. She also bamboozled the Free Press editor, clearly a Pampers baby, who thinks real diapers are soaked in the bathtub.

Nothing in Mrs. Romney's pointless narrative furnishes a reason to vote for her husband. One can wish her the best without wanting her to be first lady.

BARBARA S. ARTHUR


Romney editorial an insult to all

Your editorial, "The Romney dilemma," Aug. 30, on the right side of the editorial page was misplaced. It should have been on the left side. It was an insult to all Americans. The writer's understanding of American political history is lacking.

Your understanding of the internal danger to America, because of Mr. Obama's policies, is abysmal.

Mr. Obama is on a course to transform America into a dictatorship. Mr. Obama has been violating our Constitution on a daily basis. Czars! Ignoring legally enacted laws! A truly destructive health-care bill! The list is endless and growing!

Now that one party has selected a candidate, it is the function of that party's members to get behind that candidate with purpose and enthusiasm.

The time for your diatribe on Mr. Romney is long gone. Your words can only help the Democrat candidate.

Can I assume that the right side of the editorial page is morphing into a Democrat shill sheet?

WALTER S. McFARLAND


Mrs. Obama shows concern for kids

I was disappointed by the Aug. 23 Free Press editorial, "Food rules eat away liberty."

You characterized first lady Michelle Obama as "playing general in her delusional little war" against childhood obesity.

Mrs. Obama is not delusional; this is truly a battle for the health and future of our children.

According to the Centers for Disease Control, childhood obesity has more than tripled in the past 30 years. In 2008, over one-third of U.S. children and adolescents were overweight. The health effects are immediate and long-term: decreased school productivity, skyrocketing medical costs, and, later, inability to serve in our military. The answer: eating nutritious, well-balanced meals of appropriate portions and regular exercise.

Some children receive two out of their three meals a day at school. Their families do not have the means to provide them with adequate nutrition. Let's ensure those meals count. Local schools now are serving local produce, a win-win for our kids and our farmers.

I applaud Mrs. Obama for her leadership and concern for our children. Her "Let's Move" campaign promotes exercise. Our kids should taste and experience healthful meals at school and enjoy regular exercise.

We are what we eat.

APRIL COOK, R.N., Lookout Mountain


TARP project right thing to do

I read your Aug. 17 editorial about Boehner and the TARP with great consternation. As a fiscal conservative with over 30 years of banking experience, let me share my thoughts.

The TARP, while maybe not the "free market" thing to do, was the intelligent and wise thing to do. Do you not remember the chaos created when Lehman declared bankruptcy? Multiply that by 20 and imagine what kind of depression we would be in today if it had not been implemented.

The $700 billion was inflated because the government forced all large banks to take it, so that the weak banks would not be identified. The government would not allow anyone to pay it back for many months.

Finally, Goldman was the first allowed to repay the government including annualized interest of 19 percent. Did you know that? Since then many banks have repaid, including interest of 5 percent. There have been hundreds of billions repaid, and the last report in Investors Business Daily was the loss to the government could be as little as $15 billion to $25 billion with the possibility the government could actually make money on TARP. Have you explained that to your readers?

CHARLES MILLER, Dalton, Ga.


Faith community strength of nation

I believe the Freedom "From" Religion Foundation is saying we should not have freedom "of" religion, which is one of our rights.

The faith community (Muslims, Jews, Christians and others) who believe in God and love have been the strength of America and our communities throughout America's history.

We, who believe in God and love, have always helped our fellow man by volunteering at the Ronald McDonald House and the food bank (gathering and giving food to those in need). Our places of worship have homeless people stay as a safe place (IHN Ministry), with food and beds and training to help their future plus many more ministries in the faith community.

Yes, we pray in our closets and out of our closets too, and we all are thankful for prayers for our community. When we pray before a football game it is "not" to win but for safety and good sportsmanship for all players.

We need to bring America together in the spirit of love!

Pray for America!

CAROLYN McMAHEN, Soddy-Daisy

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Easy123 said...

CAROLYN McMAHEN,

"I believe the Freedom "From" Religion Foundation is saying we should not have freedom "of" religion, which is one of our rights."

And you would be wrong.

"The faith community (Muslims, Jews, Christians and others) who believe in God"

Muslims, Jews, Christian and others all believe in distinctly different gods. It would seem that you are unaware of that fact.

"When we pray before a football game it is "not" to win but for safety and good sportsmanship for all players."

By 'we', you mean Christians. I haven't heard any Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, or 'other' prayers at any football games.

"Pray for America!"

Which god should we pray to? Allah? Yahweh? Jesus? Zeus? Buddha? Vishnu?

September 6, 2012 at 12:34 a.m.
degage said...

pray for Easy, He needs it even if he doesn't think so.

September 6, 2012 at 7:52 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Is that all you got degage?? The literal topic under scrutiny is your only offering as a rebuttal?

Everyone says, "lets look at the validity of public prayer and assess if it is appropriate to intermingle one religions constructs with everyone's governance" and here degage runs in and offers with spite, "I'll pray fer ya'll!".

Who ya praying to degage? Don't pick the wrong one or you'll be eternally sorry. Remember, only one of them loves you.

September 6, 2012 at 8:20 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Degage,

Which god should we pray to? Allah? Yahweh? Jesus? Zeus? Buddha? Vishnu? Wotan? Brahma?

You'll have to make that distinction first so people will know which fairytale god to send their prayers to. Which one is the "right" one? Go ahead, I'll wait...

September 6, 2012 at 8:22 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Walter McFarland, where do you get this stuff? Your understanding of the state of our nation, and how we got there is abysmal.

I was NOT insulted by the refreshingly honest editorial.
You, Robert Myers, and I may all disagree with Drew Johnson, but his editorials are more thoughtful and better-researched than Lee Anderson's drivel. The new editor obviously knows more about what's going on than you do. Of course, that's his job, and I suspect it requires him to read and understand more than what's pumped out by Limbaugh and Fox.

And, Mr. McFarland, please tell us which of your Constitutional rights you think President Obama has violated. Name them, please, and provide specifics.

Does it violate your rights to make sure people can get health care? Does it violate your rights to make sure we all have clean air and water? Does it violate your rights to regulate unscrupulous banksters?

September 6, 2012 at 8:35 a.m.
aae1049 said...

Cannot stop laughing at Robert Myers fiction, " Lee Anderson was a talented and discerning writer who seemed to always be fair and articulated his viewpoint succinctly."

LEE ANDERSON WAS NOT IN TOUCH WITH THE READERS AT ALL. HIS EDITORIALS WERE BORING AND GOP FOLLOWING EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

September 6, 2012 at 8:40 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

It's in the Bible! Tales from Gawd's Word!

Here's another little bit of the Word. That's right. Another chapter in that book of books that is all moral, all good, and all true.

"Was David a necrophiliac or just kinky?"

Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king's son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife. — Samuel 18:27

Not content with simple killing and butchery of men, women, and children, David goes to town on private parts. There's a worthy man to lead a nation! Seems David had that Jeffrey Dahmer thing going on, but it's OK if Gawd says so.

Turn in your hymnal to page 42, rise and sing, "What a Friend We Have in Foreskins!"

Attention all you Christian bachelors! Want to woo that potential father and mother-in-law? Grab your best rusty knife and start a-hunting foreskins. Nothing says "I want to marry your daughter" quite like a collection of bloody foreskins. Extra points if you get four or more different colors.

P.S. They make great gifts for the holidays. Forget mistletoe; hang strings of foreskins around your home and watch everyone's eyes sparkle knowing you're a true believer. Merry Christmas!

September 6, 2012 at 9:06 a.m.
degage said...

Whats this we Ease, you don't pray. You are a piece of work.

September 6, 2012 at 9:40 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Easy asked a simple question, degage. Which god? Or are your speaking-in-tongues tied?

September 6, 2012 at 9:44 a.m.
degage said...

All you athiest must be really upset that the DNC put God back into the platform.

September 6, 2012 at 9:45 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Degage,

Which god should we pray to? Allah? Yahweh? Jesus? Zeus? Buddha? Vishnu? Wotan? Brahma?

You'll have to make that distinction first so people will know which fairytale god to send their prayers to. Which one is the "right" one? Still waiting, poptart...

September 6, 2012 at 9:47 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Avoiding the question again, degage? Which god? Simple question for your simple mind.

September 6, 2012 at 9:48 a.m.
degage said...

There is only one God, you can call him god ,allah,or whatever. Your question is stupid like most of your questions.

September 6, 2012 at 10:10 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Degage,

Which god should we pray to? Allah? Yahweh? Jesus? Zeus? Buddha? Vishnu? Wotan? Brahma?

You'll have to make that distinction first so people will know which fairytale god to send their prayers to. Which one is the "right" one? Still waiting...

Your most current response is stupid, much like yourself. Which god should we pray to, Degage? Are you afraid to claim your own deity? I'm sure your god would be ashamed of you.

September 6, 2012 at 10:17 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Isn't it amazing that some Christians can tell you exactly how to live but can't tell you exactly which god gives them that authority?

Another good reason to keep religion out of schools, government, and bedrooms.

September 6, 2012 at 11:08 a.m.
degage said...

Wrong Ease, Hes ashamed of you.

September 6, 2012 at 11:13 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Even Jehovah admits He's not the only god, just a paranoid/jealous/schizo god.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Exodus 20:3

Oops! Seems the Great One has competition.

September 6, 2012 at 11:14 a.m.
Easy123 said...

degage,

"Wrong Ease, Hes ashamed of you."

Who is "He"? Can't you answer a simple question? Are you a coward or just stupid? Which god should we pray to? How many times are you going to deny your own god?

September 6, 2012 at 11:25 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

As a Pastafarian, I am dismayed that my own personal savior and deity, The Flying Spaghetti Monster, has not been included for the prayer lineup at the Hamilton County Commission.

Doth thou not realized the Flying Spaghetti Monster commands obedience to His Holy Semolina Scriptures, "Give us this day our daily pasta" and "Whosoever believes in me shall have everlasting Ragu and live forever in the land flowing with Parmesan and basil?"

"Woe be unto the disbelievers and rice eaters, for they know not the wonders of His Noodly Appendage, and seek not the ways of His Holy Colander." 1st Lasagna 3:15

"The path is wide and flat and called fettuccine; and no man enter the Kingdom of Boiling Water without first adding salt." Spaghetti-O's 4:18

It's time to come together in the spirit of love, compassion, and Alfredo sauce for His namesake. Can't we all just see the wonder of his Noodliness?

Lay down your burden of wicked potatoes and evil couscous and worship at the Plate of Pasta He hath prepared for you.

In His sublime starchy goodness, we pray. Amen.

September 6, 2012 at 11:48 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Conclusion:

Jesus Christ of Nazareth, The Lord God of Hosts, The Lion of The Tribe of Judah proclaims: Revelation 1:8... "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, The Almighty."

Just thought i would help You out degage, not that You really needed it. kwo

September 6, 2012 at 3:16 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

If degage is as deluded as you, the only help can come from medication, therapy, and a long rest.

September 6, 2012 at 3:43 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Conclusion:

Jesus Christ of Nazareth has declared through His servant, and, Holy Scripture cannot be broken:

2 Thessalonians 3:10... "For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat."

Thank You to BETTINA KING, Signal Mountain!

September 7, 2012 at 5:42 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Conclusion:

Jesus Christ of Nazareth has declared through His servant, and, Holy Scripture cannot be broken:

1 Timothy 2:8... "I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting."

Jesus Christ, Moses, the Apostles of Jesus, all prayed openly in public, in many places!

Thank You to CAROLYN McMAHEN, Soddy-Daisy!

September 7, 2012 at 5:51 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Mr. Orr, again your religious blather means nothing. You've been caught time and again in outright lies about claims you've made on this site.

Several weeks ago you claimed credentials in physics that would "amaze" everyone. Yet you've failed to provide evidence. I'm still waiting to be amazed, but it appears that was another fabrication.

Explain the joke you repeated twice and the story you repeated twice about a comedian saying , "Let's go to the hospice and look at the homosexuals." You said you heard a comedian make that joke. I called BS on that. Yet you cannot give any evidence for that statement as to who, when or where it was said. Go ahead Orr, give your proof. It will be easy to verify.

But you can't because it was never said. You make excuses, provide false quotes by Abraham Lincoln as real, and quote the Bible as if that's evidence of your claims.

As Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." Mr. Sagan was a scientist; you're a sad, deceitful, deluded, obsessed liar.

So make me out the one in error and I'll admit I was wrong. The only evidence I see from you is your wild-eyed, fanatical religious bigotry — no proof of those science credentials you've claimed and no proof that the homosexual remark was anything but a deliberate fabrication on your part.

As to your critical thinking ability, you have none. You're as intellectually and religiously fraudulent as the faith healers you condemn.

So put up your evidence, Mr. Orr, or admit you're a liar. We're all waiting, Mr. Orr.

September 7, 2012 at 7:37 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

daytonsdarwin,

I think You must be a good person at heart. I will ask You to be fair and keep up with my comment posts. I try to keep up with all of Yours. I do benefit and learn many things that way. Ordinary, i would never copy and paste, yet, because i try to honor You, i will once again relay the following information to You:

You will have needed to live quite a few years to match the following credentials. Without the years and wisdom to accompany them, no degrees in whatever form can match the following credentials. Indeed, without the years, experience, evaluations, analysis, and other critical thought, these credentials cannot be attained by any Doctorate in existence. So having said that...behold the following which is a repeat post, to once again honor Your requests.

daytonsdarwin, You will continue to weary me until i have disclosed those pesky ole' quantum/astro/mechanics physics CREDENTIALS. So, alas, here You are:

Credentials plural of cre·den·tial (Noun)

A qualification, achievement, personal quality, etc., used to indicate suitability for something: "academic credentials".

Early in the eighties i began drinking deeply of the available knowledge regarding the various disciplines of physics. I have taken many (and 'many' again) self help courses, actually closing down libraries, in the pursuit of perfection in the learning of these disciplines. I win debates as a natural matter of course when I am engaged with that particular challenge. I do have a couple of Grad courses on my official transcript, but, they are in education.

September 8, 2012 at 4:11 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

ALSO, ALSO, daytonsdarwin, To Honor You, and, Only to Honor You...i will once again go against my own rules and Copy and Paste. Please try to keep up with my comment posts, as i do for You. Having said that...the "Hey, let's go to Hospice and look at the Homosexuals" insult must be kept from any print, anywhere! It is disgusting and not worthy of being seen again! Anyway, the following is what i posted for You in a past comment post:

daytonsdarwin, no, i certainly am not lying. The joke, though, is loathsome, let it die, yes, let it die in peace. You have brought me many healthy laughs, laughs which renewed my spirit when i was in low spirits. For this one, please, it should be buried, or better yet cremated. Let it go to the domain and chambers of the dead. kwo

September 8, 2012 at 4:36 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Orr, you've been busted again. You have no credentials. That was BS. Obviously that joke wasn't so terrible as you repeated it twice. Then when I called BS and asked for evidence, suddenly it's too terrible for your memory and to be in print. BS again.

You're not honorable, Mr. Orr. Your "credentials" are merely your contrived mental calisthenics that fool no one except yourself.

You do live in a world of your own, Mr. Orr, where only you believe that what you have produced is credible. It's not. It's total BS, and a five-year old child could see through you.

Now you see why reason and science are the opposite of what you preach and practice. Shame on you for your lies and dishonesty in promotion of your Christianity. It's behavior like yours that wakes people up to the sham of religion that you so illogically espouse.

September 8, 2012 at 5:02 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

daytonsdarwin, Even though You make many illogical, evil, unsubstantiated, deceptive, very misleading (maybe even libelous) claims in an abundance of Your printed statements, I do offer this prayer on Your behalf:

"daytonsdarwin, The Lord bless thee, and keep thee:

The Lord make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The Lord lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace."

This prayer can only be positively answered by virtue of

'You' accepting Jesus Christ as Your personal Lord, God, and, Saviour.

Until You do, though, consider this:

Romans 12:20 "Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head."

Saint Matthew 5-Jesus Said...

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

For if ye [only] love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?"

September 9, 2012 at 11:38 a.m.
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