published Sunday, October 6th, 2013

Compromise

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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AndrewLohr said...

A dubiously passed party-line bill, to which the people's response is a GOP House. Do we get compromises then? The President gets re-elected with several million fewer votes than he got four years previously, after his IRS suppresses the opposition, against a RINO nasty to the right, about as loathsome a paternalist as himself. Do we get compromise then? OK, how about now? Better late then never.

Postpone this thing that's not ready for rollout. Insert opt-out provisions: you can get any kind of insurance or alternative or none you want if you pay a 10% surcharge, or 1% of your income, into O'Romneycare. Compromise by turning Mr Obama's promises into law. Compromise by exempting whoever applies for exemption.

October 6, 2013 at 12:24 a.m.
bret said...

Andrew, the key passage in your nightly butthurt-induced whine is "The President gets re-elected." Yes, he was re-elected and by a substantial margin. Somehow, you Tea Party types think you represent the will of the people, ignoring the fact that President Obama ran on his healthcare plan and Mitt Romney ran on the promise of repealing it. The people spoke loudly and clearly in favor of Obamacare.

October 6, 2013 at 1:01 a.m.
anniebelle said...

AL, it appears you don't understand how elections in this country are tallied. President Obama received more votes, in this election (the last one doesn't count), than Romney so that means more Americans want the Democrats and their policies than the knuckledragging repukes. My 5 year old grandson can figure that one out.

October 6, 2013 at 6:55 a.m.
jesse said...

Annie, the pres speaks for the nation ,the congress speaks for their constituents!

If we are gonna start hangin folks we need to start w/ senile,foamin at the mouth true belivin ,OLD ugly grannyladies that are out of touch w/reality! IMO!!

October 6, 2013 at 7:53 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Right-wing extremists have taken the USA hostage because they haven't gotten everything they wanted. The only thing they are proving is that they are crazy and willing to destroy America if they can't get their way. That kind of thinking would land most people in jail. Too bad sensible Republicans (dare we hope they exist?) aren't taking action to promptly pass a clean CR and re-open the government. Makes it hard to respect anyone in the GOP when they've let this fiasco continue.

October 6, 2013 at 8:32 a.m.
jesse said...

ANYBODY that has lived thru the last 60 years and has paid attn and expects the pols. to take care of the nation and do the right thing is a damn fool! It's not just the tea baggers or the repubs or dems! IT'S ALL OF THEM!! Ya got a front row seat to watch the country implode! ENJOY !!

October 6, 2013 at 8:44 a.m.
anniebelle said...

yes, jesse, you finally have something right. The majority of Americans in this nation voted for this president and his policies, so he is working on their behalf. Why is that so hard for you to understand? And you can sit there until you turn blue and call me your childish, hateful names, believe me I've been through a lot and my life and you're like spit on the sidewalk.

October 6, 2013 at 9:50 a.m.
jesse said...

Annie, ya gotta remember "shat flies BOTH ways!!" Be nasty ya gonna git some nasty back on ya!!

October 6, 2013 at 10:38 a.m.
jesse said...

Whear ya at Annie?? i;M SITTIN HERE BORED outta my head ,ready to mix it up and ya done went 10/7 on me!! You the best idjit we had on here since Easy decided to get his arz banned!!

October 6, 2013 at 11:33 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Jesse, I love the way you claim to be "above it all" and you're only intent, so you say, is to mix it up and have some fun on this forum. But you are just as opinionated as anybody and as guilty of name-calling as anybody. You "tweeners" (independents, moderates, whatever you like to call yourselves) are always harping about how it's the fault of both parties and the only solution is to vote the bums out. But until there is campaign finance reform and the big money from corporations and the super fat cats is eliminated, or at least reigned in, the next batch of politicians is going to be no different from those that are in there now. The whole system is broken, rigged in favor of big business and the rich, and until that is addressed, just voting the present-day bums out is not going to fix a damn thing.

But as bad as our system is, this shutdown - and most of the gridlock we have been experiencing since Obama was first elected - has not been the fault of Repubs and Dems equally. The shutdown is without doubt the fault, entirely, of pig-headed, childish Tea_Party influenced Republicans. It is not a stretch to say that they are holding the country hostage, simply because they could not get their way through the proper political channels of garnering enough votes to repeal Obamacare. And when they whine that Obama never compromised or met them halfway on it, that is an outright lie: the very proposal he put on the table in the first place was a HUGE compromise! He preferred single payer but he knew the Repubs would reject it right off the bat. So what did he do? He offered them a plan almost identical to what a Republican (Romney) had instituted in Massachusetts, with the same provision (the mandate) that practically every Republican had previously praised as promoting self-responsibility. It was the brainchild of a conservative think tank, no less.

Bipartisanship and compromise, to the GOP, mean one thing and one thing only: give in to their demands or they are going to take the whole country down with them. Any halfway sensible person can see them for the despicable, tantrum-throwing juveniles they are. They are not "Constitutionalists," they're friggin' terrorists.

October 6, 2013 at 12:43 p.m.
jesse said...

Roo, you are so puckerd up and take yourself so serious you prob. have to sit on the tolit 3 weeks to take a dump!

October 6, 2013 at 1:57 p.m.
limric said...

"They are not Constitutionalists, they're friggin' terrorists."

Hmm yea Rickaroo you're label is mostly correct.

By & large the GOP of the 21st century is a group of extortionists; as well as cry babies as Clay so nicely pointed out. But the group running this show is the Tea Party; and yes they are terrorists but with one additional descriptor: 'Down Syndrome'.

Ask some of these Teabaggers why they don't address the worst excesses in the federal budget — the bloated, unbelievably gargantuan and wasteful military budget. We loose more per year just on cost overruns (F-35 anyone?) than China spends on its entire military!!

The party of smaller government and fiscal responsibility?

BULL COOKIES!

October 6, 2013 at 2:05 p.m.
GameOn said...

How much is the Obama family going to save under Obamacare? I have been waiting to hear how much their premiums are going down?

October 6, 2013 at 2:24 p.m.
limric said...

Here’s one of my favorites.

Embraer (a Brazilian company) is supplying 20 light attack planes (2 seat turboprops) for a country not much more advanced than Europe of the 1400’s - Afghanistan. This deal is worth $428 million; costing every man woman and child in the US a cool 1.4 million.

October 6, 2013 at 2:29 p.m.
jesse said...

Lim? I think your math is off somewhat!!

October 6, 2013 at 2:33 p.m.
limric said...

Oh how Jesse?

428 million ÷ by the US population of 300+- million seems to work out ok.

Well anyway, here's another you'll like:

The Littoral Combat Ship, @ 670+ million per is “not expected to be survivable” (I’m not making this up) - in combat. That’s Michael Gilmore, DoD’s director of operational test and evaluations assessment.

What a deal!

October 6, 2013 at 2:56 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

You're right, limric, the teabaggers are the ones running the show, but if there are any truly moderate, rational Republicans left, they are doing a great job of keeping their moderation and their rationality hidden from view. They all seem to be cowering to the tea-party wackos and they continue to vote in lock-step with their agenda. The bottom line for them is to vote AGAINST Obama and the Democrats, no matter how far out in right field the teabaggers among them are willing to go.

October 6, 2013 at 3 p.m.
onetinsoldier said...

Dumba$$ repugnants can't win, what they are doing will irrevocably harm the democratic process for all future generations and the President has them by the short hairs for doing it. He's boxed in, and to their demise. Ted Cruz dug a hole and the idiots jumped in with him against all good reason and I hope they stay in the hole past the 17th. Nothing good comes from this for the repugnants.

NO MERCY, NO PRISONERS

October 6, 2013 at 3:38 p.m.
facyspacy said...

Something is going on in africa.....

October 6, 2013 at 3:49 p.m.
jesse said...

My abacus says that works out to a buck and change per person!

Or a mil.4 for 428 folks!

October 6, 2013 at 4:14 p.m.
limric said...

Jesse,

DOH!

Math fu@kage on my part. Good thing I'm not an accountant.

You may now castigate me mercilessly.

October 6, 2013 at 5:08 p.m.
jesse said...

Consider yerself seriously castigated!!(whats castigated??)

October 6, 2013 at 5:28 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

limric said ...

This deal is worth $428 million; costing every man woman and child in the US a cool 1.4 million.

428 million ÷ by the US population of 300+- million seems to work out ok.

Yeah $1,400,000 and $1.40 seems to be the same at first glance .... Or if you're unlucky enough to be cursed with a congenital defect....Right Pal?

October 6, 2013 at 5:31 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

limric said...

Embraer (a Brazilian company) is supplying 20 light attack planes (2 seat turboprops) for a country not much more advanced than Europe of the 1400’s - Afghanistan.

The Littoral Combat Ship, @ 670+ million per is “not expected to be survivable” (I’m not making this up) - in combat. That’s Michael Gilmore, DoD’s director of operational test and evaluations assessment.

What a deal!

I thought you Fleabaggers’ contention was that all large new government programs had problems at the beginning. That given time problems would be corrected and the usefulness of the program realized. Maybe that’s just a situational thing with you people.

October 6, 2013 at 5:33 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

moon4kat said...

That kind of thinking would land most people in jail.

Yeah .. you definitely come across as someone who would try to jail your political opponents especially for their thought crimes and maybe even a little ideological training. Better be careful though as that attitude hasn’t worked out very well for a lot of its adherents.

Too bad sensible Republicans (dare we hope they exist?) aren't taking action to promptly pass a clean CR and re-open the government.

Why should you get everything you want? Why are you people so ready to shut down the government to accomplish that? Think of all the destitute federal government employees that are sitting in the dark with nothing to eat. You vile degenerates!

October 6, 2013 at 5:56 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

anniebelle said...

The majority of Americans in this nation voted for this president and his policies, so he is working on their behalf.

That’s the problem in that he is only working on the behalf of his supporters but the bad news for Obama is that those who support him are down to 41% and headed to the mid 30’s.

And you can sit there until you turn blue and call me your childish, hateful names, believe me I've been through a lot and my life and you're like spit on the sidewalk.

”Spit on the sidewalk” ... yeah that wasn’t childish or hateful ... was it? Hopefully you didn’t turn blue but that sort of attitude can surely produce that color and on a permanent basis.

October 6, 2013 at 6:10 p.m.
tifosi said...

The keyboard coward has spoken.

October 6, 2013 at 7:27 p.m.
fairmon said...

It is a good thing our republic prevents a majority from dictating to a minority group or we would still have slavery and would not have never seen the civil rights act. The problem is the federal government trying to manage what has been and should be a state issue.

October 6, 2013 at 10:49 p.m.
fairmon said...

The shut down needs to last long enough to realize "wow" they really are not essential, not necessary, very expensive with not much return on the investment. Did you see the waste and fraud going on in Medicare with a high percent of disability claims not justified? Again, lawyers are involved and getting wealthy at the tax payers expense. Not being truly eligible for disability does not mean they don't need help and a job.

October 6, 2013 at 10:54 p.m.
fairmon said...

How much liberty and freedom are you willing to give up and hand over to local, state and federal governments. You can only buy this type toilet, this type light bulb, you will wear a seat belt, you will purchase healthcare insurance, etc. etc. A long list of behaviors where something started as education of the public then incentives or bribery to do something has become a requirement, a law. You will not cook with oil or buy a 16 ounce carbonated drink.

We now have the first item that will be taxed if not purchased, what will be the next item where those not purchasing it as the government "dictates" will be taxed?

Make sure you realize Obama did not write nor does he completely comprehend the unaffordable health insurance act. He uses the teleprompter to say what Valerie Jarrett and other advisers tell him to say. The intent of the act is good but the delivery is about as bad as it could be.

October 6, 2013 at 11:27 p.m.
fairmon said...

The Senate will try to vote this week on a bill that passed the House unanimously on Saturday to pay federal workers for days missed.

Are they furloughed, laid off or on paid vacation. The last shut down everyone got full back pay and will this time. How is that saving money and why should they be paid for work not done?

The U.S. will not default on the debt since revenue is enough to pay the interest on the debt which is about 7% of the budget and growing. The government could sell or lease some of it's vast holdings that aren't being used and will not be needed in the future. The American public is being duped by it's government.

October 7, 2013 at 2:33 a.m.
anniebelle said...

Jt doesn't understand, like the rest of his comrades, MAJORITY RULES. A doctrine by which a numerical majority of an organized group holds the power to make decisions binding on all in the group. How else do you think this gang of 40 traitorous teabillies all of a sudden have put a stranglehold on our nation. They are the Majority in the house. Hopefully, that will all change next year.

Yes, all you 'game players' and that is what you are, are willing to destroy this entire country with your stupidity and indoctrination. Do you think the rich that own this country (GOP) gives one wit about you, they'd just as soon have you as their slave as anybody.

And yes, I meant that literally, like spit on a sidewalk. If I said what I was truly thinking, I would have been banned.

October 7, 2013 at 6:09 a.m.
anniebelle said...

Oops I almost missed Jesse's brilliant question. "Whear ya at Annie?? As my 3rd grade teacher used to say, "behind the at". You're a senile old goat, jesse, and this is NOT a game, this is our country's entire future at stake.

October 7, 2013 at 6:24 a.m.
anniebelle said...

The Atlantic - "32 Republicans Who Caused the Government Shutdown"

Here is a nice article discussing the 32 House Republicans who helped mastermind the current shutdown as well as their favorite talking point cheering on the shutdown. You just have to be amazed at the cheerful nihilism. They will happily shut down the government, perhaps push the nation into default, then when you lose your job and seek unemployment benefits, they will curse you for being lazy and just seeking a government handout, thus justifying their quest to shrink government further to motivate you to get off your a$$. It is almost elegant in its circular logic.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/32-republicans-who-caused-the-government-shutdown/280236/

October 7, 2013 at 6:41 a.m.
degage said...

Anniebelle, I decided to look at your profile. I love the picture of your best friends Anniebelle and Tinkerbelle, they are beautiful. It is wonderful of you ,taking them to visit shutin's and those in assisted living facilities.

October 7, 2013 at 8:38 a.m.
fairmon said...

anniebelle said....

MAJORITY RULES. A doctrine by which a numerical majority of an organized group holds the power to make decisions binding on all in the group

Not in a republic with checks and balances to protect against a king or dictator taking over. It provides for having everyone heard and represented. It seems to be working to the chagrin of those that would like to dictate to others what they will do whether they want it or not.

Governments need to be on a starvation diet until they are the slim, trim governing machines they should be. End all involvement in the middle east and north Africa, gain control of the military industrial complex, cut out waste fraud and frivolous spending in all departments then watch the economy grow and use the resulting excess revenue to reduce the debt. This will not happen because it doesn't keep the professional politicians and those in key positions in their financially rewarding positions of prestige and power.

October 7, 2013 at 8:49 a.m.
joneses said...

obama is already the first person to occupy the White House and is responsible for the down grading of America,s credit rating. Now he will be the first person to occupy the White House to let America default on it's financial obligations. This has never happened before. Why? Because the presidents in the past had leadership qualities and knew how to negotiate. Either obama has no leadership qualities and does not know how to negotiate or he thinks he is a dictator and what he says is the rule of law or obama wants America to default on it's financial obligations. None of this is good for America. When President Bush was in office all you whining liberals blamed him for everything and believed he was responsible for everything. The liberal hypocrisy is amazing. Now you have your Messiah in in the white House and you think he is responsible for nothing. You really must deep inside think obama is a pathetic excuse for a human being.

October 7, 2013 at 8:51 a.m.
fairmon said...

anniebelle said...

this is NOT a game, this is our country's entire future at stake.

Your statement is totally accurate but what you support to assure the country doesn't bankrupt and fall from grace may not be the correct answer. Neither party nor the administration seems to have the wherewithal to address the root cause of the problem. Both parties depend on people not looking past the BS they and their media connections put out.

October 7, 2013 at 8:55 a.m.
joneses said...

A fact liberals will not acknowledge.

Here are Obama’s thoughts on the debt limit in 2006, when he voted against increasing the ceiling:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

In 2007 and in 2008, when the Senate voted to increase the limit by $850 billion and $800 billion respectively, Obama did not bother to vote. (He did vote for TARP, which increased the debt limit by $700 billion.)

More proof obama is nothing but a lying POS!

October 7, 2013 at 9:02 a.m.
joneses said...

obama's lack of knowledge of the debt ceiling and his lack of leadership abilities is shown in the fact he will not even say how much he wants the debt ceiling raised. He is that incompetent.

October 7, 2013 at 9:44 a.m.
ibshame said...

Well, Well we finally made it to number one in something. Let's see how many new industries we get to attract with this distinction.

Most dangerous state in the country: Tennessee

Basing its analysis on murder, robbery and aggravated assault statistics, 24/7 Wall Street has ranked the states with the highest rates of violent crime. Tennessee, Nevada, and Alaska rank as the top three.

October 7, 2013 at 11:26 a.m.
jesse said...

If we gave Memphis to Arkansas then Arkansas would be the most violent in the nation!!!

October 7, 2013 at 11:43 a.m.
ibshame said...

"jesse said... If we gave Memphis to Arkansas then Arkansas would be the most violent in the nation!!!"

And maybe if we had lawmakers who were more interested in building Tennessee's infrastructure, creating jobs, improving education,and having better access to health care for the poor INSTEAD OF passing voter id restrictions, and allowing guns in bars and schools, it would offset some of the violence and lower our ranking.

Memphis may be a very violent city compared to the rest of the cities in Tennessee. However, when one considers Detroit, Michigan has been labled the most violent city in America it certainly didn't catapult Michigan into becoming the most violent state anymore than the blame for this new distinction of Tennessee can be blamed solely on Memphis.

October 7, 2013 at 11:58 a.m.
joneses said...

Obama just lied again. Do you know how I know? He opened his mouth. And why will obastard never let anyone ask him a question without him telling them what questions to ask?

October 7, 2013 at 1:08 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

It is amazing the TFP will not moderate these forums. It is also easy to understand why most people thing Tennesseans are hicks with less that a full education when they read these following exemplary comments.

If you can't offer a cogent argument that does not rely on diatribe, perhaps you ought to refrain from postings and read those make some sense without denigrating the opponent.

Today's wall of shame:

bret says, Andrew, the key passage in your nightly butthurt-induced whine i

jesse says, If we are gonna start hangin folks we need to start w/ senile,foamin at the mouth true belivin ,OLD ugly grannyladies that are out of touch w/reality! IMO!!

Annie, ya gotta remember "shat flies BOTH ways!!" Be nasty ya gonna git some nasty back on ya!!

Whear ya at Annie?? i;M SITTIN HERE BORED outta my head ,ready to mix it up and ya done went 10/7 on me!! You the best idjit we had on here since Easy decided to get his arz banned!!

Rickaroo says,

They are not "Constitutionalists," they're friggin' terrorists.

onetinsoldier says, Dumba$$ repugnants can't win,

tifosi says, The keyboard coward has spoken.

anniebelle says, Yes, all you 'game players' and that is what you are, are willing to destroy this entire country with your stupidity and indoctrination.

joneses says, You really must deep inside think obama is a pathetic excuse for a human being.

More proof obama is nothing but a lying POS!

They pale in comparsion to some

October 7, 2013 at 1:10 p.m.
joneses said...

inqueeringmind

If you do not like it then leave. Wow! where have we heard that statement? It was posted by someone named "inqueeringmind".

October 7, 2013 at 1:15 p.m.
tifosi said...

"If you can't offer a cogent argument that does not rely on diatribe, perhaps you ought to refrain from postings and read those make some sense without denigrating the opponent."

Perhaps you should get a full education so that you can write a coherent sentence.

October 7, 2013 at 1:50 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

ibshame said...

And maybe if we had lawmakers who were more interested in building Tennessee's infrastructure, creating jobs, improving education,and having better access to health care for the poor INSTEAD OF passing voter id restrictions, and allowing guns in bars and schools, it would offset some of the violence and lower our ranking.

I’m not sure that smoother roads, more dependable utilities, and timely doctor appointments would affect violent crime rates that much.

Memphis may be a very violent city compared to the rest of the cities in Tennessee. However, when one considers Detroit, Michigan has been labled the most violent city in America it certainly didn't catapult Michigan into becoming the most violent state anymore than the blame for this new distinction of Tennessee can be blamed solely on Memphis.


Charley Blaine and Michael B. Sauter, 24/7 Wall St.:

On its website, the FBI instructs readers to avoid comparing state violence because rankings tend to be simplistic and ignore factors that influence crime, as well as the different ways crimes are measured and reported. For this reason, Roman cautioned against directly comparing states based on their individual crime rates.

To be fair, Tennessee's violent streak is concentrated in some of the major metropolitan areas. Memphis's violent crime rate was the nation's fifth worst, while Nashville's was the 18th worst. (Chattanooga and Knoxville don’t help as well - Jt)

Crime peaked in the late 1980s, fueled by the crack cocaine epidemic. Beginning in the early 1990s, crime began to decline. Although the exact cause remains unclear, experts have pointed to factors such as better policing, demographic changes, higher incarceration rates, a drop in cocaine use and the introduction of a variety of social programs.

October 7, 2013 at 2:04 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

tifosi said...

"If you can't offer a cogent argument that does not rely on diatribe, perhaps you ought to refrain from postings and read those make some sense without denigrating the opponent."

Perhaps you should get a full education so that you can write a coherent sentence.

Form over substance. For the Fleabagger, their intent rather than results is their measure of accomplishment.

Wait a minute did that come across as I was defending "inquiringmind"? If so then belay that last

October 7, 2013 at 2:12 p.m.
wallyworld said...

Jt6gR3hM, joneses, jesse, fairmon, degage, GameOn, AndrewLohr, CON-IDIOTS, to list some of you total complete 'FAKE NUES' devouring brainwashed 'I choose to be a brainless, non fact-finding country-destroying idiot' : Tea-bags GOP will take yours and everyone else's money and hand it over to their big-bucks donors who will wine, dine, and laugh at you stupid idiots for gobbling their garbage bag propaganda lies!!!!!!!

October 7, 2013 at 2:36 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Gee, tifosi guess I have to apologize that I left a "that" out of in my compound sentence, making it hard for you to understand it. (The referent of "it" is "my compound sentence.") I'm sure by the comments you all got the point anyway. When you spend most of your time with potty talk you suggest a circumstance of having difficulty forming a meaningful argument, or of just being sophomoric.

October 7, 2013 at 2:40 p.m.
anniebelle said...

degage, thanks for your interest. I just got back with my crew visiting a few shut-ins in Ft. Oglethorpe/Ringgold area. Now, we're doing double duty, taking food as well as companionship since most of the ones we see received their nutrition through Meals on Wheels. I'll have to admit, I started doing this for selfish reasons. When my dear Mother had to go to a 'rest home', she couldn't take her pets, and it made me cry every time I would go see her and bring her cats with me. So, I promised, when I was able, I would do that for others in her position. My dogs came from a raid on a 'puppy mill' over in middle-Tennessee.

October 7, 2013 at 2:44 p.m.
fairmon said...

anniebelle...you have a good and kind heart. Don't let those crooked politicians use it against you as they mouth on about how they care and doing the peoples work etc. etc. They do not have a clue and do not really care and that includes Obama. My little dog is a hit at assisted living facilities and he loves all the attention....he will go from resident to resident as though he is doing them a favor, his tail is going 90 and he just soaks it up, all the petting and oohing and awwing etc. makes his day and theirs.

October 7, 2013 at 3:18 p.m.
anniebelle said...

I'm so glad you do that fairmon. These people are so appreciative and their eyes just get bright when they see us coming. I try to take some of my cats too, but they are just too skittish. It probably does more for my soul than theirs.

October 7, 2013 at 3:37 p.m.
joneses said...

wally,

That is what obama is doing. Look at the 200 million plus al gore is worth today. Look at the 100s of millions the clintons have made. Did you know that pelosi's wealth doubled the two years she was b!tch of the house? The dummycratic party is all about confiscating the wealth of others and they will keep what they want and give the little that is left over to the moochers and leaches like you just to keep you in poverty so they can control your stupid a$$.

October 7, 2013 at 3:48 p.m.
joneses said...

A LOOK THROUGH the slimdown contingency plans of the federal government shows some commissions and agencies have zero employees reporting for work, prompting watchdog groups to ask the question: Why do they even exist? 83% of government spending is still taking place.

October 7, 2013 at 4:35 p.m.
prairie_dog said...

Here's a deal for you. A compromise.

Let Obamacare be optional. If it's a better deal, businesses and knowledgeable people will FLOCK TO IT to save money and get better benefits.

October 7, 2013 at 5:11 p.m.
joneses said...

praire dog,

I am all for that. The problem is the dummycrats definition of "optional". Click on the link below to see harry reids idea of "optional".

October 7, 2013 at 5:38 p.m.
GameOn said...

We all need to realize that Washington, D.C. operates for the benefit of D.C. We have been taxed without representation for a long time. Both parties represent big business and their own personal interests. "We the People" are at the bottom of the food chain. The only way to change Washington, D.C. is to make sure no incumbent is ever elected again. We may have to hold our nose and vote for the other side a few times but it will be worth it in the long run. If we flipped the whole Congress, with every election for the next 10 years, we would get change.

October 7, 2013 at 8:04 p.m.
degage said...

Wallyworld, Wow The only post today or yesterday was to compliment Anniebelle. Haven't seen you around for a long time, so what did I say that pissed you off so much. By the way the definition for wally world is WalMart. That say's it all.

October 7, 2013 at 8:14 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

I'm going suggest a couple of things we might all try to do. I'm sure I'll get flamed, I'm just not sure by whom. It will either be the first person who reads them or the fastest typer. How about this? Let's all try to remember we are all Americans and we're supposed to be civil to each other. Let's all try to write clear, concise, grammatically correct sentences and leave out the four letter words if we can. Let's all, temporarily at least, join the Libertarian Party and vote in some Libertarian candidates to show the Democrats and the Republicans that we are tired of people who don't seem to know the meaning of the word "compromise" or, for that matter, the word "optional", running our lives. I realize this probably won't do much to help the current situation, but you know our Congress Representatives and our Senators all have e-mail addresses. Instead of throwing invective at each other, we might try changing the direction we're throwing it in. If our so-called representatives start catching the crap instead of getting to laugh at us throwing it at each other, it might just scare them a little bit. You never know what will work, and what won't until you actually try it. I think we should all try the things I've suggested. From where I sit, we don't seem to have a whole lot left to lose at this point.

October 7, 2013 at 8:27 p.m.
fairmon said...

RShultz....Good post and I agree. I hope you won't find where I have personally attacked anyone although I may strongly disagree and/or question them. I do write the flash and senator Corker often and from the senator I get a response...not from the flash.

I would like to see a libertarian or independent elected but with no turnover in D.C. they would be ignored and left out.

October 7, 2013 at 8:38 p.m.
degage said...

Tifosi, the cowards on the left are bret, moon4rat,rickaroo, onetinsoldier and wallyworld. You are the only one that has posted all your info, anniebelle is second with hers giving her first name and limrics third, no name but some info. I gave you as much info as I am willing to, You are just to nosy for your own good. By the way who is Scott S Wilson. I Googled your name and Scott S came up as an alias. So explain why you only call conservatives coward for not posting all their info when most of the liberals don't post theirs.

October 7, 2013 at 8:56 p.m.
anniebelle said...

degage, in all fairness, there are so many vindictive, hateful people in this area, they're probably afraid to give too much information. I have a friend who has written several letters to the editor, and you have to sign your name to those and apparently your address, and he receives all kinds of hate mail and ugly telephone calls. I still have a land line too, and I want to be able to answer my phone without fear of some lunatic being on the other end.

October 8, 2013 at 7:05 a.m.
degage said...

Anniebelle, I agree with you about vindictive, hateful people on both sides of any debate. I also have a land line and like you , I want to be able to answer my phone without fear. That is why tifosi didn't get all the info he wanted. I could hardly trust him.

October 8, 2013 at 7:42 a.m.
anniebelle said...

You recall what happened to lkeithlu on this board. And I have found that people also have a tendency to lie, a lot on the internet. What satisfaction they get from that is beyond me. You're not required to post any info, so why bother. People that need me and know me know where they can find me and how to contact me.

October 8, 2013 at 8:24 a.m.
degage said...

I recall. Ikeithlu didn't deserve that crap in fact no one does. You were brave posting the info you did, but I'm glad you did because it warmed my heart to read about what you do with your wonderful dogs.

October 8, 2013 at 8:39 a.m.
anniebelle said...

I want to recruit as many people as possible to give back to their fellow humans. We're all in this together. Right now, we don't have another planet to move to, so we need to be kind to all on this boat.

October 8, 2013 at 8:59 a.m.
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