published Monday, September 2nd, 2013

Traffic fatalities can be prevented and other letters to the editors

Traffic fatalities can be prevented

Our deepest sympathies go to the family of Beverly Orban, the 18 year old who passed away in a fatal car crash Aug. 16 near Mt. Pleasant, Tenn. Tragically, these crashes happen with alarming frequency. Crashes are the leading cause of death for teens in the U.S., and teens' crash risk is three times that of more experienced drivers.

Education is one step toward reducing teen driver crashes. As Beverly's Mt. Pleasant High School community mourns her death, it is my hope teachers and coaches take a moment to review safe driving tips and teen driving laws with students. A team of traffic safety experts developed the GDL Game Plan for coaches to help athletic coaches and teachers help protect new drivers from common crash risks. I encourage school administrators to utilize this tool, which is free and can be downloaded at nsc.org/tnteensafedriving.

The Tennessee Teen Safe Driving Coalition, an initiative of The Allstate Foundation and the National Safety Council, works at the grassroots level across our state to raise awareness and help prevent crashes such as Beverly's. With increased education and advocacy, I am confident we can make Tennessee's roads safer for everyone and ensure young drivers return home safely to their families each and every day.

KRISTI TOWNS, Jackson, Tenn.


Nation's downfall could be foretold

The Creator's word to society is a warning of the collapse of societal characteristics during the last days before His return as He says: "People will become self-centered; greedy; arrogant; abusive; without morals; disobedient; ungrateful; unholy; heartless; unforgiving; slanderous; earth worshippers; without self control; brutal; treacherous; reckless; vicious; conceited; lovers of pleasure from whom people of faith are to avoid" (II Tim. 3, Gal. 5:1, Cor. 6: 9-10 and others). There are already many such people living in every city not to mention those in Washington D.C., the news media and Hollywood so wake up while there is still time. Remember, Rome fell from within because of the same societal characteristics. Will the USA be next?

WAYNE SIMS


Bible outlines church discipline

"Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

Church discipline is essential to biblical accountability and identity, unless the church sets its sails with the winds and trends of culture. Every fellowship has its standards. The Ridgedale Church of Christ didn't make this a public issue, and no one wants their lives thrown open to the public for critical examination and judgment. In fact, the text of 1 Corinthians warns against going outside the church for judgments.

Jesus said, "Beware when all men speak well of you." He also taught us to expect abuse from those who love their sin more than their Savior. Churches are not perfect, but we follow a perfect Savior and seek to reflect His character individually and corporately. Church membership brings with it benefits and responsibilities. Those who refuse to uphold the standards may rightly relinquish their membership.

GREG NANCE, Signal Mountain

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ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

So very true! I have been trying to alert folks for a long time regarding sodomy.

In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in the Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that "the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101-500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1,000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than one thousand lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men", Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354

Probably the easiest route to infect a person with HIV/AIDS virus is by anal intercourse. Well over half of all homosexuals report having/preferring sex via the rectum. Now AIDS is ravaging the homosexual community/population! The Holy Bible, Jesus Christ's Words warned of this many centuries ago. Please study His Word and rescue Yourself before it is eternally too late. No one knows what a day may hold.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), from 1994 to 1997 the proportion of homosexuals reporting having had anal sex increased from 57.6 percent to 61.2 percent, while the percentage of those reporting "always" using condoms declined from 69.6 percent to 60 percent.

The CDC reported that during the same period the proportion of men reporting having multiple sex partners and unprotected anal sex increased from 23.6 percent to 33.3 percent. The largest increase in this category (from 22 percent to 33.3 percent) was reported by homosexuals twenty-five years old or younger. Homosexuals Failing to Disclose Their HIV Status to Sex Partners

A study presented July 13, 2000 at the XIII International aids Conference in Durban, South Africa disclosed that a significant number of homosexual and bisexual men with HIV "continue to engage in unprotected sex with people who have no idea they could be contracting HIV." Researchers from the University of California, San Francisco found that thirty-six percent of homosexuals engaging in unprotected oral, anal, or vaginal sex failed to disclose that they were HIV positive to casual sex partners.<<<

Jesus Christ has warned that Sodomites will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

September 2, 2013 at 8:55 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

I am sure, Ken, that you can put your Christian love of others to better use than condemn all gays for the sins of a few, then using this to impose your religious views one everyone regarding homosexuality.

September 2, 2013 at 9:04 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Ken Orr, many of the famous rock stars have admittedly had sex partners by the hundreds - and some even by the thousands, if they are to be believed - over the course of their careers. And there is a growing number of straight men and women who enjoy and indulge in anal sex. It seems to me that, if you feel compelled to devote so much time and energy on what two people do in private, behind closed doors, you should focus less on homosexuality and more on sodomy. Personally I think it's a pathetic, perverse obsession for anyone to spend as much time as you and your holy rolling brethren do on what two people freely and pleasurably engage in between themselves. Sure, AIDS is a danger that people, gay or straight, should be wary of, as well as all other STDs, but it is not up to you or any self-righteous bigot (and yes, you are a homophobic bigot, without question) to monitor. You Bible thumpers are more disgusting by far in your pitiful self-righteous fixation on homosexuality that anything that homosexuals or other "sodomites" do.

September 2, 2013 at 10:34 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

How, lkeithlu, can i put my Christian love of others to better use? That question also goes to You Rickaroo, who thinks I am fixated on individual's private sex lives.

When, for instance, parents love their children, they are sometimes overly protective. These parents especially want their dear ones to be aware of 'otherwise' hidden dangers. You know, the obvious dangers like not wearing a seat belt, or, not looking both ways before crossing streets, or, maybe letting them know the dangers of eating too many sweets (bad nutrition), these are not 'so much' emphasized. What 'is' emphasized is 'beware of being groomed for child sexual abuse, or, being introduced to gateway drugs by someone who wants to profit from another addicted person. The aforementioned are extremely important, but don't carry the same weight as the more occult dangers.

My love for humanity is genuine. I would always hurt myself before i would ever-even think about hurting someone else. Always.

Probably the most precious, sensitive, loving, likable people I've ever known of, in order just after authentic Christians, have been those classifying themselves as homosexual. I may not even know them except through television, the Times Free Press, or something. Or, i may have known them. I can think of a particular individual now. He will absolutely break Your heart with his vulnerability and persona of a compassionate, fragile (in a positive sense, fragile) human being.

Now would i purposely want to harm such a fragile fellow human? NO WAY! NO...NEVER!

And, Rickaroo, I in 'no way' want to know of whatever thing goes on in the privacy of someone's bedroom. Are You kidding me? That is divinely, individually, uniquely, PRIVATE. Please, don't even tell me about it (T.M.Information), i might upchuck.

But, like the children analogy above, i want to warn folks to not get into harms way. I do an exorbitantly, voluminous amount of research on an extremely huge myriad of subjects. Outside of my Christian experience, and my Family, my greatest joy in life is research based learning. That's one reason I'm drawn to posts from folks like lkeithlu who possesses (to me) a negligible percentage of sadism, yet, who is like a genuine, natural disseminator of knowledge. So, why can't You just start trying to view me from this prospective of a loving protector of fellow humans?

Ken ORR

September 2, 2013 at 3:28 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Kids will be straight or gay, Ken, without any influence from you, me or anyone else. They will realize at some age that they are attracted to their peers; most to the opposite sex but some to the same sex. It is a perfectly natural thing. Now, rather than feeding them horror stories about HIV and telling them that the ONLY way to stay safe is to hide in your church and deny who they are, why not acknowledge the risks and how to protect oneself?

Guess what? Those protections are the same whether gay or straight: Save sexual intimacy for when you have chosen your life partner, practice safe sex EVERY TIME (great for reducing unintended pregnancies too, and reducing the demand for abortion) and get tested from time to time to be sure you are not carrying any STDs. Getting your HPV vaccination is also a must, and use alcohol only in moderation so you won't have that morning after regret. Stay healthy both physically and emotionally, take care of your own needs so that you are better equipped to take care of others.

See how easy that is? And you would be treating all with compassion and respect.

September 2, 2013 at 4:05 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

It is truly a sad way to go through life, believing that there is only ONE way of being a whole human being (saved), and then starkly dividing people into two distinct categories of "saved" and "unsaved." By doing so, you reduce the wonders and the beauty of life and of people themselves to a two-dimensional rendering and you are incapable of truly accepting anyone for the person they are now, whole and complete just as they are, in their imperfections, and having a philosophy of life that is personally as meaningful to them as yours is to you. You say that you "love" everyone but that is impossible as long as your are saying that any "unsaved" person must bow down to YOUR God and believe exactly as YOU believe or he/she will suffer the consequences of an eternity of damnation and torture. What makes the things you say even creepier is that you can't for the life of you see how self righteous you are, and the fact that you see yourself as some kind of "protector" and gentle guardian over other people and their morality is creepy indeed. Nobody wants or needs your spiritual (self righteous) guidance! Nobody needs you to point out and define sin for them when they, as adults, are fully capable of knowing and understanding whether they are "sinning" or not. You, sir, can paint a smiley face on your piety and self righteousness, but that smiley face has horns on it. You are as insidious as any devil. Butt out already with your blow horn of cherry-picked sins and just worry about your own relationship with your maker.

September 2, 2013 at 4:16 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

lkeithlu, i do see what You are saying. I have 'caught Your spirit' of genuineness due to a somehow (this sounds like an oxymoron) 'elevated depth' of certainty in knowing about what You are speaking. I do wish I could explain myself better!

Rickaroo , please, this is not condescending, but factual. I will tolerate You the same as I used to tolerate Easy123. I know, with a nearly veritable certainty about You, in which I repose, that You are quite a youngster and still quite immature. You are though, taken seriously by myself within the confines of my stated perception about You. I do thank You for not degrading to the level of Easy123 in using TFP site-inappropriate profanity within Your own name calling...kwo

O.K., o.k. So You please tell me how to reconcile these two (only 2) examples of commandments to Christian believers. I ask You, in all truthfulness and sincerity, how does one do both. C-a-n Y-o-u also give me a break like You tell me to give others?

  1. "Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: and be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you."

Reconciled with:

  1. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light."

So, i'm a Christian believer. How do I reconcile the above? Both examples from the Book of Ephesians, around the 5th Chapter, or 4th.

September 2, 2013 at 5:39 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

You are the Christian, Mr. Orr, the one who believes in your book of contradictions and nonsense. It is not up to me to explain to you how to reconcile yet another of the many contradictions contained within it. It never ceases to amaze me, the many ways that Christian apologists come up with to try to make sense out of such obvious nonsense.

BTW...I am 63. I was raised a Methodist, went to a public elementary school where Bible was taught each of my 6 years there, then went to a private Christian/military academy and studied the Bible every year from the 7th through the 12th grade. I know the Bible well. I was about 13 when I first started seeing that much of the Bible didn't make a lot of sense, and then later, as a young adult in college and afterward, when I opened my eyes fully and read it without fear of being chastised by God for daring to doubt and ask questions, I began to see the Bible for what it is: a compilation of myths told by primitive people who had a very limited knowledge of the world and the cosmos, who explained the unknown in the only way they knew how - by a make-believe God, a make-believe Satan, and make-believe stories with make-believe heroes. Once you see the Bible for what it really is, just a book of myths and folk lore, there is no going back to looking upon it as an actual historical account and certainly not as the inerrant word of a perfect God. I sincerely hope you have an epiphany of reason one day, sir, if it is not already too late for you. The light of truth and reason shines far brighter than any false light of fictitious gods and messiahs.

September 2, 2013 at 7:33 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Then, it sounds like to me Rickaroo, that according to You, Jesus Christ was a LIAR.

September 2, 2013 at 9:50 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Some folks are just not willing to give up certain behaviors for the sake of the Gospel.

Some are honestly bitter because of, generally speaking, a tragic loss for which they blame Jesus Christ. This, of course, could be a loss of a loved one, seeing a loved one suffer, or, possibly the loss of a personal limb, or, limbs and having to now live a (so called) handicapped life.

I could name many other reasons, but, i believe these to be the most frequent reasons for 'not being able to cut the mustard' required by Jesus Christ in living the Born Again Life.

It is a horrifying prospect to me that Rickaroo, or anyone else would be facing an eternity separated from their Creator as they burn in a devil's Hell, Fire, and Brimstone eternally. A place where i will no longer be able to help them, or have hope that they will come to the light, because:

"It is appointed for man once to die, and then after this, the judgment." Holy Word of God...The Holy Bible.

Ken ORR

September 2, 2013 at 10:17 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Actually, I don't blame Jesus for my loss of belief. I blame believers, whose resistance to incorporating new understanding of the world (primarily but not exclusively due to science) and seeing everything through narrower and narrower vision. Denying science is one thing, but continuing to treat others poorly in the name of some deity or holy text I found awful. Finally I decided that either there was a god and this was what he/she/it wanted of the creation it supposedly loved and hence was not worthy of worship, or there simply wasn't anything "out there". To be honest, believing in no god was much easier and made more sense than trying to work through the inconsistencies, contradictions and pointless judgment that I saw.

So, in short, Ken, in spite of your efforts, it was really people just like you that drove the final nail in the coffin.

September 3, 2013 at 8:01 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

I publicly apologize to Rickaroo for believing him to be a 'youngster'. Now, I believe he has 'paid his dues' as a 63 year old gentleman. I think that he is not immature, but fun-loving. It is I who needs a 'thicker skin' when corresponding with Rickaroo, and not Rickaroo's faux pas.

Ken ORR

September 3, 2013 at 8:12 a.m.
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