published Saturday, August 16th, 2014

The Protesters

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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alprova said...

Good one Mr. Bennett!! And so accurate as well.

August 16, 2014 at 12:09 a.m.
fairmon said...

Accurate? What drives that conclusion?

It doesn't appear the theft of cigars led to the incident but it does show the kid was no saint. A lot of facts still need to come out. Right now it now looks like this policeman may have been like the gun happy guy in the movie police academy.

According to the 2012 National Retail Security Survey, shoplifting costs American retailers approximately $14B annually. Of course the price people pay reflects a merchants loss if they are going to stay in business.

August 16, 2014 at 12:45 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

None of us are saints, fairmon, the cartoon has to do with the right of the people to free assembly to protest a grievance against the government!

August 16, 2014 at 1:01 a.m.
Ki said...

fair on said: shoplifting cost s american retailers approximately 14B annually

And FBI studies have shown most items stolen from stores are at the hands of people who work there on up to store security and management, and not from the customers who shop there. Remember the off duty cop moonlighting at a wal-mart, or some big chain store in Georgia, filling orders for neighbors, friends, family with things they wanted? Big item things such as computers, TVs, etc. They place the order and he stole the item from the store and made the delivery. They pay him a fraction of what the item cost.

August 16, 2014 at 4:19 a.m.
fairmon said...

Ki said...

fairmon said: shoplifting cost american retailers approximately 14B annually

And FBI studies have shown most items stolen from stores are at the hands of people who work there on up to store security and management, and not from the customers who shop there.

Therefore?

The shop lifting rate by customers is estimated at 0.6% of the inventory level. I grew up working for my father who worked hard to make a living in a small retail business. Shop lifting was a costly thing and it was often shocking who the shop lifters were. It was not the poor and needy any more often than those well off. Filing charges was essentially a waste of time since the thief would be out and about before he could finish the paper work. The hearing, another time consuming event, would typically be a harsh reprimand unless there had been multiple prior charges which means unless caught many time. I have no sympathy for a thief regardless of what bad thing happens to them.

August 16, 2014 at 4:57 a.m.
fairmon said...

inquiringmind said...

None of us are saints, fairmon, the cartoon has to do with the right of the people to free assembly to protest a grievance against the government!

That is a right that includes a comment that it should be exercised peacefully. Rioting, looting and destruction of property is not peaceful assembly to petition or express a grievance. The right to do so includes but is not limited to governments.

The majority in the community including the parents of the deceased do not condone the destruction of property and looting by a bunch of hoodlums.

August 16, 2014 at 5:07 a.m.
Maximus said...

Hmmmm, the video of the store robbery that I saw on the news last night and is all over the internet shows the perp bullying a "man of color". Now one thing I know you radical leftist Democrats hate is a bully unless of course the narrative does not fit your impassioned messaging about a so called equal rights issue. What I saw in the video was a large person making violent, threatening moves toward the store owner and stealing merchandise. Had I been the store owner the perp would have received a shot in the chest and I would have had plenty of witnesses to attest that it was self defense. Past behavior is always a predictor of future behavior so if the perp showed the same aggression toward the cop the perp needed to be put down....period.

Again, I have to ask the question, why is all this crime happening in these Democrat, socialist utopia, welfare neighborhoods that were supposed to receive sooooo much......wait for it......"Hope And Change" from Barry The 1%er Welfare Pimp?

August 16, 2014 at 6:31 a.m.
Maximus said...

Oh and Clay really really missed his calling....following in the footsteps of Barry The Welfare Golfer POTUS, Clay should have been a Community Organizer. Like Ole Al "Bones" Sharpton Clay really loves stirring the pot of division. His kids have to be soooo proud of him as does his military Daddy that moved him around so much in his "troubled" childhood. Troubled childhood.....that explains a LOT about Gay Errrr I mean Clay Bennett. :)

August 16, 2014 at 6:48 a.m.
Maximus said...

Ki is finally making some common sense instead of spewing the college professor Afro-Centrism black panther lines. I never heard from Ki regarding her opinion of the vulgar and demeaning rap music industry and how it influences young black males to commit violent acts especially against "shorties" one of the rap industry words for women along with biatches and hos. Obama seems to care less about the issue since he and Michelle party on a regular basis with Jay Z who has made millions off of violent gangster rap that has contributed to keeping a brother down.

August 16, 2014 at 7:35 a.m.
alprova said...

It's amazing how some of you are all for individualism, until it involves those of other races. Everyone of that race is then categorized and placed neatly into the same box.

Everyone is an individual and everyone deserves to be treated like an individual at all times and in all circumstances. All that aside, there is a problem in this nation where black people are treated with suspicion from the outset of any encounter with them.

There seems to be a discrepancy as to whether or not Michael Brown is the robber in question. It doesn't appear that was the reason he was targeted for his encounter with Officer Darren Wilson.

The question is still on the table as to why that young man 'deserved' eight bullets in his body? I see no justification for that.

And why the delay in bringing all this out? If they had this information, they might have squelched most of the doubts and accusations by offering it immediately.

Now it all looks like a cover-up and I'm one of those that is suspicious that it is being used to justify another killing of a young black man in this nation.

August 16, 2014 at 8:06 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Funny how protests against use of excessive force by police is unlawful, but armed interference on behalf of someone illegally grazing cattle on public land is considered patriotic.

August 16, 2014 at 8:14 a.m.
conservative said...

Mr. Bennett, you keep the loons stirred up, that is what you are good at.

Ms. Sohn has topped you. She writes that the mob intent on burning and looting were "mourning."

I quit reading after that one.

I could have a field day with her misuse of "mourning."

August 16, 2014 at 8:20 a.m.
alprova said...

Maximyth wote: "What I saw in the video was a large person making violent, threatening moves toward the store owner and stealing merchandise."

That, we can all agree on. The one who was stealing certainly had a weight and a size advantage on the store clerk or owner.

"Had I been the store owner the perp would have received a shot in the chest and I would have had plenty of witnesses to attest that it was self defense."

You believe that would have been self-defense? He only pushed the man. He did not strike him.

Your punishment does not fit the crime. Your punishment would likely place you in jeopardy of violating man's law and God's law.

Perhaps you should move to the Middle East, where you are allowed to dole out punishments like that. You might even get to sever some fingers and arms as punishment for stealing.

"Past behavior is always a predictor of future behavior so if the perp showed the same aggression toward the cop the perp needed to be put down....period."

Why don't we stick to what is known, rather than to add more unsubstantiated assumptions to this issue?

August 16, 2014 at 8:24 a.m.
Maximus said...

Alprova.... Did you see how large the young man is in the shop video and how aggressive his movement was. I think the tox tests are going to show this man was under the influence. And come on, you are 240lbs. It could take eight bullets to take you out even in your wheel chair.

I'm sure the police union in Ferguson will do a fine job of explaining what happened and protecting their fellow cop. Again, had I been working at the store the violent bully would have been taken out on a stretcher since of course I have a concealed carry permit ole Glock would have done its Peacemaker thing!

August 16, 2014 at 8:25 a.m.
alprova said...

Maximyth wrote: "Alprova.... Did you see how large the young man is in the shop video and how aggressive his movement was."

Large, yes. Aggressive? Whomever it was, he was determined to leave with the cigars, but I saw no real aggression. He pushed the shop keeper away when he tried to take back the cigars.

"I think the tox tests are going to show this man was under the influence."

Okay...even then, I question eight bullets, especially if the witnesses are correct that he was lowering himself to the ground with his hands in the air, exclaiming..."DON"T SHOOT!!!"

"And come on, you are 240lbs. It could take eight bullets to take you out even in your wheel chair."

I see, so you believe the officer's intention was to "take him out?" Interesting.

"I'm sure the police union in Ferguson will do a fine job of explaining what happened and protecting their fellow cop."

Of that, I have no doubt.

"Again, had I been working at the store the violent bully would have been taken out on a stretcher since of course I have a concealed carry permit ole Glock would have done its Peacemaker thing!"

You'd be sitting in jail right about now, if that had been you.

Although Missouri has adopted Stand Your Ground provisions, there is absolutely no deadly force being applied by the black man in that video.

Pushing someone to be able to steal a box of cigars is not a stand your ground defense.

August 16, 2014 at 8:35 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo states "Now it all looks like a cover-up and I'm one of those that is suspicious that it is being used to justify another killing of a young black man in this nation." *Then he follows up with...wait for it...Why don't we stick to what is known, rather than to add more unsubstantiated assumptions to this issue? ROTFLMAO

August 16, 2014 at 9:13 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^^beautiful, yes?^^

August 16, 2014 at 9:15 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie needs to learn how to distinguish between an accusation and a suspicion due to the delay in providing information to the public that might have headed off all that has ensued since the killing of an unarmed black man.

I accused no one of anything. I pointed out how it all might be viewed by much of the public, and based on the renewal of violence last night, I am correct.

As one of this forum's biggest bigots, I'm sure there is little question in your mind about any of this. Right?

A police department would never put together evidence to cover-up a crime of it's own, now would it?

I'm encouraged that the FBI is deeply involved.

August 16, 2014 at 9:19 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Not bigoted at all, butthat. (except against you). You can parse the words all you want, but what I said above at 9:13 pretty well sums you up, lie boy.

August 16, 2014 at 9:23 a.m.
alprova said...

Oh you're bigoted alright...not to mention full of unsubstantiated accusations of your own.

You're a pathetic whiner. You're too stupid to figure out when to fold those cards you are holding in order to resume the life you once had.

You're a wind pisser. And all that accomplishes is getting your pants wet.

Get this through your iron encrusted head; No one has lied about you. You lied about yourself and have been playing a victim for three months.

Reminding you of your CONFESSION is not a lie, unless you typed that lie, which you most certainly did.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270586

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270592

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270593

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270595

Quit blaming me for your lack of attention in straightening out your own personal lies.

August 16, 2014 at 9:32 a.m.
Ki said...

fair on your 4:57 a,m. response is beside the point. My father-in-law owned a small neighborhood store in his lifetime in another state. Yes, people sometimes stole things from. People you'd never suspect of committing such an act. However much it hurt him, he never felt the desire or need that it was justified to take a life over material things. His motto was: these things can be replaced. A human life, once stolen, is gone, and can't be replace.

My personal motto is: Never allow the things you own to end up owning you.

Far too many people worship their material things more so than the sanctity of human life. They allow those things to own them.

That's the point.

August 16, 2014 at 10 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Fat Al, you love the attention, Admit it. You're just pissed because I have exposed you to be the go-to guy for lies. I could start with the 500 or so about sex offenders. Shot your creds all to hell.

August 16, 2014 at 10:09 a.m.
Ki said...

Maxine, regarding your 7:35 a.m. post.

That's because I never saw your question regarding rap music. If I had my response would have been: there's no definitive proof that listening to rap music results in young black males committing crime. No more than watching a Superman movie would convince someone to jump off a building believing they can fly or standing in front of a locomotive barreling down the tracks believing blowing their breath on it will stop it. Although I've been in the presence of a few whose breath could possibly stop a train, I'd still expect them to be smart enough not to chance standing in the path of a train in motion .

August 16, 2014 at 10:14 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

You correct, Ki. Rap music promotes decency. Clearly advances humanity. Great post.

August 16, 2014 at 10:20 a.m.

Exactly, fairmon. Looting, Destroying property, stealing has nothing to with assembly. So if you don't like something it then gives you the right to loot and destroy property? Nothing in the Constitution about that.

How does looting and destruction directed at folks and their property who have nothing do with what happened between the police and Brown make any sense?

It's savage and senseless behavior that hurts people in the community who provide a service to the community.

August 16, 2014 at 10:26 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said....

Pushing someone to be able to steal a box of cigars is not a stand your ground defense.

What rights does a person have to protect their property from destruction or theft? If someone had come to your car lot forcibly took a set of keys with the intent of stealing the car what would you have done? If someone came in your house under some legitimate pretense then picked up your portable TV and was leaving with it without permission what would you do?

If that is him in the video he is a dead bully and thief and the shop owner and I have no, that means zero, sympathy for him which has nothing to do with his race. The policeman doing the shooting should be appropriately punished if the facts support that. He will and should be disciplined as the facts dictate and the theft wouldn't alter anything. However, he did kill a thief and not some nice, mature and responsible young man as some have tried to portray. It is often said you should say something good about a person that has died. OK he is good and dead thief, that is good.

I am thinking with your bleeding heart liberal ideology you can justify the looting and destruction of the property of innocent people.

August 16, 2014 at 10:28 a.m.
Ki said...

Don't take what I post out of context, jackzun. Violence has been around much longer than rap music. What do you think would cause a yuppie white dude to enter a school and kill several people, mostly children. Or a homeschooled white kid to murder both parents? And why is it when addressing violence and crime surrounding the black culture everyone is grouped together under one heading and some connection between music and dress is blamed.? The problem is a broken nation abd society and has nothing to do will skin color. But we live in a race conscious thats quick to blame an entire race for the actions of a few when that race is black and brown. When a white boy goes on a mass killing spree, its looked at individually. When crime takes place within the black culture it viewed as some kind of breakdown and flaw within the entire black race. And like all Palestinians are punished and made to suffer for the actions of Hamas, all America tends to blame and punish all its African American population for the actions of a few.

August 16, 2014 at 10:31 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

fairmon asks Alpo "What rights does a person have to protect their property from destruction or theft? If someone had come to your car lot forcibly took a set of keys with the intent of stealing the car what would you have done?" I'll answer for him, Mon. He would, if the guy happened to be downtrodden, assure him he would lower his interest rate to 25%

August 16, 2014 at 10:33 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie the little whiner wrote: "Fat Al, you love the attention, Admit it."

Fact is, I could live just fine without it.

"You're just pissed because I have exposed you to be the go-to guy for lies."

It's a good thing you're not an Attorney. You'd starve to death.

"I could start with the 500 or so about sex offenders. Shot your creds all to hell."

See? You're the ONLY person who is keeping that issue alive. I've not mentioned a word about it.

WHAT THE %&*% IS WRONG WITH YOU?

August 16, 2014 at 10:37 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Will end it today if you will do what's right.

August 16, 2014 at 10:39 a.m.
fairmon said...

Ki said...Far too many people worship their material things more so than the sanctity of human life. They allow those things to own them. That's the point.

I fail to get your point just as you fail to get mine. Sanctity means saintliness, holiness or godliness certainly not descriptive of a thief. Killing for stealing may not be totally appropriate but the death of a thief merits no sympathy. The policeman is probably in deep trouble but at least it is for killing a thief and not a good and innocent person.

August 16, 2014 at 10:43 a.m.
Ki said...

Life is precious, fairmon, all life. Doesn't your 'christian bible teach that? Or did you miss that part? Didn't your 'christ speak and teach on such matters? That's where the sanctity comes into play. All life has meaning, even that of the allege criminal, or no life does.

Got errands to run/ 'be checkin with y'all later. Tally ho' mates!

August 16, 2014 at 10:48 a.m.

Ki, except the unborn, huh?

August 16, 2014 at 10:50 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "What rights does a person have to protect their property from destruction or theft? If someone had come to your car lot forcibly took a set of keys with the intent of stealing the car what would you have done?"

All of that depends on whether or not that individual is armed.

I keep a bonafied Buford Pusser special on my side at all times. I also conceal and carry. What I would not do is to shoot someone who is unarmed. I might whop them upside the head.

"If someone came in your house under some legitimate pretense then picked up your portable TV and was leaving with it without permission what would you do?"

Same answer. A TV, a car, or a pack of cigars is not worth a life.

"If that is him in the video he is a dead bully and thief and the shop owner and I have no, that means zero, sympathy for him which has nothing to do with his race."

But you would shoot him dead for that? Scary.

"The policeman doing the shooting should be appropriately punished if the facts support that. He will and should be disciplined as the facts dictate and the theft wouldn't alter anything."

But wait a minute. If it was not meant to alter a thing, why even mention it? They are even going so far as to claim that Officer Darren Wilson knew nothing about the robbery accusation at the time he accosted Michael Brown.

"However, he did kill a thief and not some nice, mature and responsible young man as some have tried to portray."

You're assuming too much at this point. That is still not substantiated.

"I am thinking with your bleeding heart liberal ideology you can justify the looting and destruction of the property of innocent people."

You're not going to read any justification from myself. If it were up to me, I would fire one warning shot at looters or those destroying private property, then shoot to kill.

August 16, 2014 at 10:51 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "Will end it today if you will do what's right."

You had your chance at one time. I did what was right then and you violated your agreement.

Your chance to conrol the ending to your own misery will not come from me this time. It's all up to you.

I'm not bothered a bit by your childish antics.

August 16, 2014 at 10:54 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, do you intend to bring all those weapons of ass destruction to our meeting? lol

August 16, 2014 at 10:55 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie the pitiful whiner wrote: "I'll answer for him, Mon. He would, if the guy happened to be downtrodden, assure him he would lower his interest rate to 25%"

If you weren't so stupid, you would be aware of the ursury laws in Georgia that prohibit interest rates anywhere near that level.

Second, where do you get off answering questions about me? You know nothing at all about me or my business.

And last, the more butt-hurt you get, the more stupid your posts become.

WHAT THE %*( IS WRONG WITH YOU?

August 16, 2014 at 10:59 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie the whiner wrote: "Alpo, do you intend to bring all those weapons of ass destruction to our meeting? lol"

Why wouldn't I?

A man who plays games like you do, lives in a fortress, for he is too cowardly to stand toe to toe with a man without an Uzi.

I believe in the element of surprise. I'm certainly not going to make an appointment when we meet. You'll know I'm there when I want you to know I'm there.

Sleep tight moron.

August 16, 2014 at 11:03 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, I never considered that you would recognize the usury laws. You were a used car dick.

August 16, 2014 at 11:04 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Geez, Alpo. I hope you have the right address for a change. I like surprises.

August 16, 2014 at 11:12 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Too bad Bennett cannot see that there is a bigger problem with the police. Yes, they seem to have always been too eager to presume they have reasonable cause whenever they spot a person of color. But Bennet has posted two cartoons in a row taking another whack at the same topic when he could be examining a second, maybe more important problem.

Police often do not act like they view themselves as public servants anymore. The execution of their "new job" of controlling public behaviour with minimal risk to themselves has become what they are about. They are being trained to use military style tactics and this behaviour is spilling over into routine interactions with people on the street. Ferguson was a great example of this. The over-armed aggressive law enforcement only escalated tension.

August 16, 2014 at 11:22 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

So Fairmon, you don't believe in people making mistakes and then redeeming themselves? I stole a toy when I was 7 and was caught. I have never stolen another thing in my life. By your rationale, I deserved to be killed and/or labeled a thief the rest of my days on Earth. And what do you say about some of the investors that pillage people's retirement accounts? Are you saying that death was appropriate for the people behind the collapse of Enron (well, in that case, if you say yes, I may agree with you)? If you think death is a fair penalty for someone entering my yard and stealing my lawnmower, I hope you don't have any kids that make a poor choice one day, because they could fall victim to a person that has the same beliefs as you.

August 16, 2014 at 11:25 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

I hope justice is served, but unfortunately you have a portion of Americans like Fister, Maxipad, and ConMan whose rationale is: "Why is everyone up in arms about this guy being killed by the police. Young blacks are gunning each other down everyday, so what's one more?" And then you have a portion like Fairmon who believe since the kid stole something, he deserved to be shot multiple times. And then guys like Jack that blame rap music. Sounds like the religious leaders and the NRA blaming Marilyn Manson for Columbine. And blaming Judas Priest for another murder.

August 16, 2014 at 11:33 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Gassy, you really gas off a lot without thinking. Where did I say anything remotely close to blaming rap "music" for the Ferguson deal? You need Beano, pal.

August 16, 2014 at 11:42 a.m.
alprova said...

He did boo boo on that one. It was Maximyth who was dissing on rap music.

August 16, 2014 at 11:51 a.m.
limric said...

Precisely BigRidgePatriot,

This is how the DHS is getting around ‘Posse Comitatus’. In 10 years most Americans won’t remember anything but an all invasive police state.

August 16, 2014 at 11:52 a.m.
fairmon said...

GaussianInteger said... Fairmon who believe since the kid stole something, he deserved to be shot multiple times.

You will not see where I said he deserved to be shot. I did say and still say I have no sympathy for him if he was in fact the bully and thief as the video alleges.

August 16, 2014 at noon
TheJackDennis said...

an extremely rare agreement with limric

August 16, 2014 at 12:08 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Oh, Im sorry. I thought this was your post:

TheJackDennis said... You correct, Ki. Rap music promotes decency. Clearly advances humanity. Great post.

August 16, 2014 at 10:20 a.m. permalink

August 16, 2014 at 12:09 p.m.
fairmon said...

GaussianInteger said...

So Fairmon, you don't believe in people making mistakes and then redeeming themselves? I stole a toy when I was 7 and was caught. I have never stolen another thing in my life. By your rationale, I deserved to be killed and/or labeled a thief the rest of my days on Earth.

That is an irrational conclusion based on what I said. I said I have no sympathy for a thief that bad things happen to. I did not advocate death for every theft. Those in their early teens and under are still developing their future morals and principles as apparently you were assisted in doing. Parents have a huge impact on how children behave and how they develop. The reduced number of two parent families and attention by parents to the development of morals and principles I believe is a major cause of many problems in society today.

Should the video prove to be the dead person it was not shop lifting but larceny without using a weapon. Shop lifters attempt to hide their theft not just pick something up shove the owner out of the way and take what they want and walk out.

August 16, 2014 at 12:18 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie the whiner wrote: "an extremely rare agreement with limric"

I'm sure you made his day when you wrote that...Idiot.

August 16, 2014 at 12:21 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

brillaint post, Craven Fingers.

August 16, 2014 at 12:23 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Shop lifters attempt to hide their theft not just pick something up shove the owner out of the way and take what they want and walk out."

Times have changed. It is now quite routine right here in our area for thieves to be as bold as hell when they steal something. Cases of beer are quite common, as well ans anything else that one wants.

August 16, 2014 at 12:26 p.m.
fairmon said...

BRP...Your 11:22 post is very accurate and is evident through out the country where they have been provided all kinds of military equipment. SWAT teams are out of control. This overly aggressive policeman just happen to take out a bully and thief according to the video which should have no baring on the investigation and does not justify the currently reported behavior of the policeman. Eight shots of an unarmed individual is excessive and irrational.

August 16, 2014 at 12:27 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^ that's because you live in a hovel, pal.

August 16, 2014 at 12:27 p.m.
alprova said...

The little whiner posted: "brillaint post, Craven Fingers."

At least as brilliant as your spelling of the word, and given the caustic crap that your fingers type all the time, that too is extremely hypocritical as well.

August 16, 2014 at 12:34 p.m.
alprova said...

The little whiner wrote: "^ that's because you live in a hovel, pal."

Sir, you know nothing about the home I live in. It's certainly not a hovel. I know you could never afford to buy it, not that it will be for sale anytime soon.

August 16, 2014 at 12:37 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^ how you gonna sell public housing?

August 16, 2014 at 12:48 p.m.
alprova said...

After reading the evidence offered at the link below, I am convinced that Michael Brown did indeed commit the robbery at the liquor store. His accomplice, Darian Johnson, confessed that the two of them were in the store and that the video is accurate.

I still want to know if he was shot in the back, and eight shots is still unjustified given the fact that he was unarmed and the officer likely was aware that he was unarmed.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/michael-brown-strong-arm-robbery-657032

August 16, 2014 at 1:03 p.m.
alprova said...

The little whiner wrote: "^ how you gonna sell public housing?"

I don't live in public housing. The place is brand new (four months old), mortgage free, and mine for the rest of my life.

August 16, 2014 at 1:14 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Sure it is. Who's the whiner now?

August 16, 2014 at 1:18 p.m.
alprova said...

The little whiner wrote: "Sure it is."

You're free as a bird to prove otherwise, if you can. For the right amount of money, I'll be happy to send you all the little details and matte finish photos.

"Who's the whiner now?"

You will forever be the little whiner who cried like a baby to the TFP staff, after years of doling out abuse and then squealing like like a little piglet when the tables were turned.

Squeal!!1 Squeal!!! Squeal!!!

August 16, 2014 at 1:35 p.m.
Maximus said...

Ki, where you stay? Shorty I'd like to roll by in da Benz and takes you ta Sizzler fo dinner. Yo hit me up wit yo 411. Aight.

Like most Republicans I started from da bottom now we here. Started from da bottom now da whole Maximus team furking here.........paraphrasing Drake. Lol!

August 16, 2014 at 1:39 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

So, Alpy, you tight with TFP are you?

August 16, 2014 at 2:44 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alprova throwing out the threats: "believe in the element of surprise. I'm certainly not going to make an appointment when we meet. You'll know I'm there when I want you to know I'm there." sounds like an ambush to me

August 16, 2014 at 2:54 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

I keep a bonafied Buford Pusser special on my side at all times. I also conceal and carry. What I would not do is to shoot someone who is unarmed. I might whop them upside the head. Alps, in your condition, can you get any leverage in that whop? lol

August 16, 2014 at 2:56 p.m.
alprova said...

The little whiner wrote: "So, Alpy, you tight with TFP are you?"

I never kiss and tell.

"sounds like an ambush to me"

You're a big boy, aren't you? A man as brave as you are behind that monitor should be able handle yourself just fine.

"Alps, in your condition, can you get any leverage in that whop?"

How badly do you want to know?

August 16, 2014 at 3:09 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Another threat to archive. Whenever you feel froggy, toad, jump.

August 16, 2014 at 3:16 p.m.
adolphochs said...

Just saw the recording of the giant thug strong arming and robbing a small shop keeper. Who started the gentle giant narrative? Of course, a strong arm robbery is not a capital offense but shows just how violent the "gentle giant" could be.

August 16, 2014 at 3:20 p.m.
Ki said...

da zabbler said: ki, except the unborn, right?

Typical lame response, zab. To be expected, though.

August 16, 2014 at 3:26 p.m.
Ki said...

Adolphus, seems like the lil chiefy is now backtracking on that video he released to the public. When Darren Wilson crossed paths with Michael brown he knew nothing of the allege incident at the store. That was not why Wilson stopped Brown and his friend. He stopped them allegedly for walking in the middle of the street. The video and the killing of Brown by Wilson are two unrelated incidents. There's even uncertainty if the video even took place on the same day Brown was killed by Wilson,

August 16, 2014 at 3:37 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "Another threat to archive. Whenever you feel froggy, toad, jump."

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!! THAT ONE-LEGGED MAN IS THREATENING ME!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAH!!

August 16, 2014 at 3:39 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

fairmon sez about freedom of assembly, "That is a right that includes a comment that it should be exercised peacefully." Like the weay the reporters and almost all the crowd were acting, especially in the McDonald's. Give me a break, you want the protests suppressed, plain and simple. and then he sez, "You will not see where I said he deserved to be shot. I did say and still say I have no sympathy for him if he was in fact the bully and thief as the video alleges."

Or, in other words, "Yesiree, in fact the boy got his just desert by being shot in the back and killed because someone in a video looks like he shoved the clerk, no need for a trial."

Of course a trial is moot now, except for the officer who appears to have used excessive force against a person in retreat, the Reds have come up with their better way for crime control, if the are black and look suspicious, shoot them. The klanners are back. By fairmon's reasoning (sic), he seems to say they should shoot the cop on suspicion rather than go through all the trouble of a trial? It is sick logic but you can't argue with proponents of racism, they are all about prejudice and bigotry.

August 16, 2014 at 3:43 p.m.
ibshame said...

A friend of mine was upset when a few months ago a bunch of teabaggers hung a sign on the overpass going into Hamilton Place protesting against President Obama. They stood on that overpass with their sign hanging over the interstate, supposedly there were no one police officers anywhere near that overpass bridge. This was about a week before the Neo-nazis held their "convention" in Chattanooga. Was it a coincidence the teabaggers were on that overpass the week before the Neo-nazis showed up? Yet they were there and there were no police any where around. I sincerely doubt the police would have allowed a group from the NAACP to stand on that same overpass bridge and post a sign in SUPPORT of President Obama. BTW the police were called and asked about the teabaggers on that overpass, the police responded with the teabaggers DID NOT have to have a permit to be on that overpass bridge even though it was right over the interstate and could have caused an accident had something dropped from that bridge onto cars traveling I75 North. As usual Mr. Bennett is right on target at least in Chattanooga.

August 16, 2014 at 3:49 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpy, shouldn't I be frightened?

August 16, 2014 at 3:49 p.m.
Ki said...

Interesting ibshame. I was told that blacks who showed up to protest the neo Nazi gathering were threatened by police with arrest if they didn't leave. A modern day Chattanooga whites only moment? But I hear this was all show for some kind of documentary filmed due to come out.

August 16, 2014 at 4:18 p.m.

Ki, you're clearly saying criminals deserve more respect than the unborn. Putrid.

ibshame, your last post..LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL idiot

August 16, 2014 at 4:20 p.m.
Ki said...

Actually, zabby, you're the one who's saying criminals deserve more respect than the unborn. you're like the person who tries to switch gears in midstream. This is not about abortions or the unborn. Go somewhere else if that's what you want to discuss.

August 16, 2014 at 4:26 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

So Ki, it's about a neo-nazi rally, then?

August 16, 2014 at 4:49 p.m.

Ki, you said all life is sacred. You libs don't think much of the life of the unborn, which you were once,...I thinkLOL

You libs care more about criminals than you do the unborn.

August 16, 2014 at 5:01 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Our system entitles a presumption of innocence. Unless you're the five-o.

August 16, 2014 at 5:03 p.m.
Ki said...

zabby, all life is sacred. Unlike you, I'm not pretending to care only to exploit the unborn to drive home some personal agenda. I even honor and respect the cow who gave up life so you could consume that juicy hamburger. You repulsives are such fakes and hypocrites!

August 16, 2014 at 5:34 p.m.
Ki said...
August 16, 2014 at 5:36 p.m.
Ki said...

Nope jackzun . it's about how america responds on issues depending on race/ in black brown and white. There's a stark difference. Take the cliven Bundy incident and how that was handled verses the Ferguson Missouri tragedy.

August 16, 2014 at 5:40 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

not getting the nexus, Ki

August 16, 2014 at 5:51 p.m.
alprova said...

The little whiner wrote: "Alpy, shouldn't I be frightened?"

Why are you asking me that question? I have no idea what a wussy you are in person. You're a brave SOB on the Internet.

Something tells me that you'd wet your depend diaper if you were caught off-guard.

August 16, 2014 at 6:18 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie wrote: "not getting the nexus, Ki"

Need someone to draw it for you in crayon?

August 16, 2014 at 6:22 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Here's a bulletin, Stump. Bring it, I look forward to it. But I doubt you have the sac.

August 16, 2014 at 7:01 p.m.
alprova said...

The little whiner wrote: "Here's a bulletin, Stump. Bring it, I look forward to it. But I doubt you have the sac."

The sac?

We're going to meet soon, but you're not going to know when or where.

If you leave your unpainted shack, keep a watchful eye over your shoulders.

August 16, 2014 at 7:21 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^^^^. woooooooo

August 16, 2014 at 8:07 p.m.
patriot1 said...

Democrat Governor Nixon did not look like a happy camper today at his presser. The Black community should take a page out of history and remember how democrats handle situations such as this one in Ferguson. Bull Connor, another famous democrat, used dogs and fire hoses in Birmingham. May be an interesting night.

August 16, 2014 at 9:14 p.m.
Ki said...

patriot those bull connors of yesteryear are today's right-wingnut/conservative republicans, who by now would have ordered the ferguson police to open fire on the protesters, and not with rubber bullets either.

August 16, 2014 at 9:56 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Ki, ever silly

August 16, 2014 at 10:11 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

New Black Panthers march and do death chants in MO. That should be helpful.

August 16, 2014 at 10:21 p.m.
patriot1 said...

Ki....some like to believe in this myth/fairytale that "Once upon a time, in the land of Utopia, the people awoke one morning and to everyone's amazement all democrats were republicans and all republicans were democrats".....News Flash...it didn't happen.

August 16, 2014 at 10:23 p.m.
alprova said...

What DID happen though was a substantial transformation in their political platforms and ideals.

Southern Democrats, prior to the 1960's were very much like today's Republican Party. The Republicans in the 1960's were very much the liberals of today's Democrat Party.

For instance, Southern Democrats resisted civil rights legislation. Republicans and Democrats outside of the South were all for it, which is why it passed.

It would be very hard to imagine this being the case today.

The Rand Paul's, The Marco Rubio's and the Ted Cruz's of today's Republican Party would never vote in favor of civil rights for blacks. They are against such rights today.

It's very hard to imagine so much as one Democrat voting against civil rights if a vote were taken today. So what has happened since 1964?

Political ideals have indeed changed and drastically as well.

This is why I am no longer a Republican and short of a miracle, I don't see myself coming back any time soon.

The Republican Party I once supported has changed and continues to slide down a very slippery hill of greed, selfishness, and hate.

August 16, 2014 at 11:06 p.m.
patriot1 said...

Imagine.....All-pooh, "the enlightened one"....BTW, how's that Hobby Lobby stock doing?

August 16, 2014 at 11:11 p.m.
fairmon said...

Inqmind said... It is sick logic but you can't argue with proponents of racism, they are all about prejudice and bigotry.

You will not find where I said or even suggested race was in any way a criteria. I have no sympathy for any thief that has a bad ending.

August 16, 2014 at 11:30 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo barfs "The Rand Paul's, The Marco Rubio's and the Ted Cruz's of today's Republican Party would never vote in favor of civil rights for blacks. They are against such rights today" That's utterly stupid. Even by your twisted logic. You, sir, are slipping deeper into insanity.

August 16, 2014 at 11:31 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Don't look at me. You guys own him. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvNU0wtIAAACv45.jpg

August 16, 2014 at 11:40 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...The Rand Paul's, The Marco Rubio's and the Ted Cruz's of today's Republican Party would never vote in favor of civil rights for blacks. They are against such rights today.

I don't support any of those named as a presidential candidate. But, you are again talking from the wrong end and expressing a personal opinion as those it were factual. There is nothing to suggest any of those named are against the rights of any citizen. Welfare through an increased national debt is not a right.

August 16, 2014 at 11:41 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Shop lifters attempt to hide their theft not just pick something up shove the owner out of the way and take what they want and walk out."

Times have changed. It is now quite routine right here in our area for thieves to be as bold as hell when they steal something. Cases of beer are quite common, as well ans anything else that one wants.

True. A prosecutor could take such to a level more punitive than common shop lifting. I still say I have no sympathy for a thief of any kind regardless of what bad things happens to them.

August 16, 2014 at 11:52 p.m.
alprova said...

"The law gave the federal government too much power in telling business owners what they could and could not do. It should be the job of communities, not the government, to fix discrimination in private places by boycotting such businesses." - Rand Paul, 2000

"It’s every bit as true now as it was then. We need 100 more like Jesse Helms in the U.S. Senate." - Ted Cruz, 2013

Marco Rubio has been less vocal about his oppositions to equal rights, but the man has opposed any and all gay rights and he voted against the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act.

In fact, all three voted against VAWA. All three oppose granting civil rights to gays and lesbians. All three would gut Roe v Wade.

All three are not going to garner votes from those leaning left or who are hard lefties.

If all three of these gentlemen were transported to 1964, not one of them would have voted for civil rights for blacks, which most conservatives I personally know, have opposed for 50 years.

Bury your head in the sand. It's what you do best, Jackie.

August 17, 2014 at 12:09 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "But, you are again talking from the wrong end and expressing a personal opinion as those it were factual."

I happen to believe it is factual and I have documented why I hold that belief.

"There is nothing to suggest any of those named are against the rights of any citizen."

If you believe that, you haven't been paying attention to what they have been saying publicly and paying attention to the way they vote.

"Welfare through an increased national debt is not a right."

What the $%^* are you typing about?

August 17, 2014 at 12:13 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "I still say I have no sympathy for a thief of any kind regardless of what bad things happens to them."

You've got a long history in this forum of taking stances that lack any compassion, forgiveness, or even a hint of sympathy.

So what is surprising about your latest comment about the death of a young man who was unarmed, who had not hurt anyone, but he does appear to have stolen some cigars?

Nothing. It is the kind of statement I have come to expect from you.

It must be nice to have lived a life, free from making any mistakes or having used bad judgment at any time in YOUR life, which then allows you to criticize others for their downfalls as human beings.

The only person more holier than thou is conservative.

I think you need to work on that.

August 17, 2014 at 12:20 a.m.
Ki said...

patriot1 regarding your aug. 16. 10:23pm post.

Betcha' didn't know yo' boy, Ronald Reagan, was an FBI informant when he was president of the actor's guild and the blacklisting and wich hunt during McCarthy terrorist reign, labeling Hollywood actors/actresses communists. Didnt know that, didcha'? His informant code name was T-10, if I recall correctly. ;)

August 17, 2014 at 8:44 a.m.
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