published Sunday, August 24th, 2014

Ferguson, MO

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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ibshame said...

EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!! One can be sure the irony will in fact be lost on quite a few!!

August 24, 2014 at 1:28 a.m.

Oh, I see, the irony is a racist investigating alleged racism.

Yeah, that is a good one LOL

August 24, 2014 at 7:23 a.m.

I agree with Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke who called for Holder to apologize to the PD of Ferguson, along with the Governor and and that horses ass Senator Clare McCaskel. Clarke is black by the way. Does that make him an "uncle tom", ibshame?

August 24, 2014 at 7:28 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

Holder calls it like it is.

August 24, 2014 at 8:17 a.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

The only time I read your comments is when you address or attack me.

However, while looking for your list of members in your apostate "church" I happened to read one of your long comments to another.

It was:

"To kill someone to protect your own family, self or possessions reduces you to the same level as your adversary."

Some would call that crazy or insane or stupid and I would intend to agree.

I would deem that comment of yours as contrary to the will of God, to say the least.

I will watch you even more closely from now on.

August 24, 2014 at 8:33 a.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

I did find your list of those who are members in your "church" of apostates.

I quote you:

"adulterers, fornicating teenagers and adults, drunks, cheats, used car salesmen, liars, egotists, thieves, errant pastors, voyeurs, jealous husbands and wives, wife beaters, husbands and wives that sodomized each other, idol worshippers and golly even homosexuals"

August 24, 2014 at 8:40 a.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

You instructed me yesterday:

"You should read Matt. 18:15-20 and take it to heart. It says, basically, If you have a problem with someone and can't resolve it, leave the person alone - which I plan to do."

It says no such a thing!

You have perverted Scripture to say and mean something totally different from God's intended meaning.

You pervert sex and Scripture and I will call you out on it.

BTW, I told you that you were lying about leaving me alone and of course you soon addressed me again.

August 24, 2014 at 8:54 a.m.

Holder is a defender of terrorists and black panther intimidation. His defense of the FALN terrorists, which went against the advice of the NYPD and FBI was disgraceful. He's a partisan hack, that's all.

August 24, 2014 at 9:34 a.m.
Ki said...

zabbler, first note the definition of a terrorist. That just about describes the sides you support as well. Think about it!

August 24, 2014 at 9:45 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Conservative, you just don't know when to shut the hell up. Inquiringmind's biblical knowledge is far more vast than your narrow-minded view. Inquiringmind against you is akin to a Rhodes Scholar debating a third grader. You look ignorant in all of your replies. It's just another failed attempt from you to distort the truth. Change the subject when you know you've lost an argument. You are nothing but a coward and a liar, neither of which is Christ-like. Go spew your hate-laced venom somewhere else. In case you haven't noticed, no one agrees or believes you.

August 24, 2014 at 9:51 a.m.

Ki, no, you note the definition of sophistry. You think about it. I stand by what I believe and if you don't like it, tough. Holder is the issue.

August 24, 2014 at 9:52 a.m.
Ki said...

Nope! da' zabbler. Holder is neither the issue nor the problem. A nation and society in denial is. And I stand by what I know to be true. And if you don't like it go throw your usual/predictable hissy fit.

August 24, 2014 at 10:05 a.m.

Ki, you own the "hissy fit"

A nation that is only 13% black elected a black president twice.

Most people in this nation work, support their families, go to school, do their jobs, pay taxes, try to make ends meet, and much more. They're not racist. It's you liberal pricks who keep the racism industry going so you can benefit from it politically. Holder and Sharpton, that howling jackass/race hustler, went down there to incite rather than seek the truth.

You lost all credibility when you accused Officer Wilson of being a neo nazi ss stormtrooper because of his features. LOL The dumbest thing ever written on this forum.

August 24, 2014 at 10:12 a.m.

You condemn those that would look at a black man and assume he's certain kind of individual because of his features, yet you did that to Wilson.

As I wrote before, thank God you're not in law enforcement or in the DA's office, other than doing janitorial work at night, that is.

August 24, 2014 at 10:16 a.m.
Ki said...

zabby said: "a nation that's only 13% black elected a black president, twice"

And he and blacks in general have been made to suffer and pay a high price ever since.

Like the conservative white radio host once advised: "go ahead! Elect him, referring to Obama,. We can use him!"

What does being in law enforcement or the D.A.s office have to do with anything? Law enforcement, as it presently operate, is on the way out anyway. Reform will happen, and not soon enough.

August 24, 2014 at 10:21 a.m.
Maximus said...

The Ferguson story is a tired topic already but as usual, with liberals like Clay Bennett, everything is political, he makes his living off of victimization and standing up for the so called " little guy ". Never let a "crisis" go to waste and Clay you have worn this one out.

As Alprova stated recently..."Obama does not care about the country, the plight of black America which has declined under his reign, he only cares about himself."

August 24, 2014 at 10:27 a.m.

Yeah, blacks, have suffered alright, economically under BO. To add insult to injury he labels illegal alien invaders as "dreamers" and says "our future rests with them". Blacks in this country are not happy with BO's coddling of illegal aliens over the black citizens of this country. BO is not down with the struggle LOL he's just a political hack and a corporate stooge. He's a golfer and loves to hobnob with rich white hollywood celebrity types. I wonder if that makes him an "uncle tom" by you lib's definition? LOL

What "white" host are referring to?

And what's your idea of a good police department, one that labels white men as "neo nazi ss stormtroopers"because of their features? LOL

August 24, 2014 at 10:35 a.m.

Maximus, yeah. He only cares about himself. That's plainly obvious.

What a narcissist.

August 24, 2014 at 10:37 a.m.
Ki said...

Bkacks have always suffered to some degree no matter who was elected president. Electing a black man to the white house didn't solve the issue, it was actually used as a cover and to enhance that reality.

Where many blacks, and some whites too, saw the election of President Obama as a sign of a new race blind america, others saw it as a cover to carry on as usual, even enhance, their racial bigotry and intolerance against blacks. And every time that black dude in the white house does anything that displeases his haters, some black person somewhere in america is made to suffer.

August 24, 2014 at 10:50 a.m.
Maximus said...

Anybody want to talk about how Obama's surrender and withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan has "weaponized" ISIS?

Another one...the gridlock in Washington produced primarily by the Republican Congress has been fantastic in that it has prevented bad legislation like Obamacare (passed in the dark of night by Democratts) from being passed and implemented. Good job Congress!

August 24, 2014 at 10:51 a.m.
Ki said...

Yep! It all goes back to Bush Jr. who signed a withdrawal timeline agreement that troops had to be out of Iraq by the end of 2011. Any troops actively in the country after that would be subject to prosecution under Iraqi law if charged with a crime, which were plenty to charge them with.

August 24, 2014 at 10:55 a.m.
Maximus said...

Of course Ki as a black man whose three kids have graduated from TN colleges basically tuition free because they worked hard and maintained a "B" or higher GPA I don't know what else the government can do for blacks except continue to provide equal opportunity not outcomes. The " outcome" of your life is up to YOU not guvment!

August 24, 2014 at 11:02 a.m.
Maximus said...

Ki, oh yea, it's Bush's fault. Lol!

August 24, 2014 at 11:05 a.m.
Maximus said...

Anybody wanna talk about how old, frumpy, puffy, and menopausal Hillary Clinton is? Any appearance she makes is bad TV.

August 24, 2014 at 11:08 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Madam Ki, who wrote the last para of your 10:50 post? That's some over the top speculation, mam.

August 24, 2014 at 11:13 a.m.

Ki, you get your talking points straight from BO who calls anyone a "hater" who doesn't agree with his idiotic ideology.

Ki, your assessment is laughable. It's you libs who want to keep racism alive. You almost have nothing else.

BO is the ultimate hater, the kind that wants to silence opposition.

Maximus, she does look frumpy, no matter how much make up they slather on her face. She's only get less popular, more mean and more shrill in the next two years, if she runs.

August 24, 2014 at 11:19 a.m.
alprova said...

Maximyth wrote: *"As Alprova stated recently..."Obama does not care about the country, the plight of black America which has declined under his reign, he only cares about himself."..."

That was NOT my statement. It was a sentence left over in a post I was responding to that I missed before it was too late to edit it.

I believe that was zableedofisterix's statement.

August 24, 2014 at 11:23 a.m.
Maximus said...

I'm going to do an "Obama". Play golf! Ki, get a damn job and quit your victimized whining. It is tired.

August 24, 2014 at 11:23 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

wah wah wah He lies as he breathes.

August 24, 2014 at 11:24 a.m.
alprova said...

There isn't going to be anything posted anew today, is there?

The same old tired crap from the same old tired people.

Obama This and Obama that...

Hillary this and Hillary that...

"Liberals are racists and Republicans are Saviors"...

Don't some of you have something FRESH to offer every now and then?

Must your posts CONTINUOUSLY be negative?

Don't some of you have anything positive to write...EVER?

August 24, 2014 at 11:31 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Here's a positive post, fat al. I'm positive you're a liar and deceiver.

August 24, 2014 at 11:32 a.m.
alprova said...

Jackie, you're lying about me being a liar and a deceiver.

Your lies are the only lies I have ever been guilty of passing on in this forum. Your lies are well documented and provable.

Remember?

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270586

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270592

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270593

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270595

When are you going to quit lying?

August 24, 2014 at 11:44 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

As posted, and ignored, several times. Any "confession" was done tongue n cheek, wanker.

August 24, 2014 at 11:45 a.m.
limric said...

Great cartoon Clay. In this case, from his past statements, Eric Holder needs to recuse himself. Reading the posts here gives one the impression of grasshoppers in the grass. Any disturbance and there’s no end to the hopping to a conclusion/conviction (much like the Trayvon Martin - Zimmerman case) with little supporting evidence.

It’s racism cause we says its racism!

The mindless inflammatory rage, vandalism and violence are doing nothing but increase the self-imposed racial divide. Ask yourselves - truthfully: Are black America’s real problems white racism? No they are not.

And now I’m a racist – aren’t I?

August 24, 2014 at 11:46 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

A special Platinum card available for LWNJ's on this forum https://twitter.com/philipmevans/status/503564896483950592/photo/1

August 24, 2014 at 11:50 a.m.
alprova said...

The BIG whiner posted: "As posted, and ignored, several times. Any "confession" was done tongue n cheek, wanker."

You call it whatever you want, but the fact remains that you accuse me of posting lies that were created from your own computer.

No one in their right mind would admit to being what you did if it was not true. You did. It was and remains a lie you refuse to own up to, for whatever reason you have for denying it.

You cried and whined to the TFP staff rather than to categorically deny what you did, denounce it as an intentional lie and take responsibility for it.

And here you are today, STILL trying to lay it all off on me as if I was the one who put it on your back.

You're demented, delusional, and just plain dumb if you think anyone believes a thing you type about others in this forum.

One day, you'll learn to stick to the topic of the day and leave others alone. If not, you're in for a cyber-spanking each and every day you decide to keep $%^&ing with me.

August 24, 2014 at 11:56 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Will keep away from you WHEN you post a retraction and admit it was a con. BTW, no "confession" of defrocked priest, nor bankruptcy, but I don't see a smidgin of evidence from you Why? Because you have none. Ergo, you are a liar and deceiver with no creds. Show us some evidence, wanker.

August 24, 2014 at 12:01 p.m.
Ki said...

Maximus, and as a black man, no matter how wealthy you profess to be or how educated you claim your children are, both you and they, as blacks in america, are far more likely to be harassed, brutalized and even shot and killed by a crazed lunatic out-of-controlled cop during a routine traffic stop than you are by a criminal during a carjacking or robbery. Just ask the surviving family of the black NFL star who was shot and killed during a traffic stop and the cops claimed they mistook his cellphone for a gun. Yeah! And he was driving one of those expensive SUV caddilacs.

Maxine said: ki get a damn job

Thanks for the advice, but maxy-- I'm just as financially secure as you are. Possibly more so. Most of us just don't feel the need to constantly and relentlessly talk about it as if trying to prove something. And one of the most financially wealthy people I've ever met never talked about it and if you met him on the street you would not have recognized him as someone tremendously wealthy. He was just that down to earth and humble.

It's always been saud that people who constantly boast and brag about their material wealth aren't use to having it.

August 24, 2014 at 12:03 p.m.
alprova said...

Why must people continue to use the word "racist" incorrectly?

There are virtually no racists in this nation. This nation however, is filled with many bigots.

A racist is a person with the inherent belief that one race is superior to another either physically or intellectually.

A bigot, when applied to racial aspects of the word, is a person who is intolerant of those of a differing race or ethnicity from themselves, refusing to accept them as a people.

August 24, 2014 at 12:05 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^^ covered a hundred times, wanker.

August 24, 2014 at 12:07 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

answer my questions

August 24, 2014 at 12:08 p.m.
limric said...

Re. ‘Maximus, and as a black man.’

”Blacks in America, are far more likely to be harassed, brutalized and even shot and killed by a crazed lunatic out-of-controlled cop during a routine traffic stop than you are by a criminal during a carjacking or robbery.”

That is a fallacious statement if ever I heard one ‘grasshopper’.

August 24, 2014 at 12:14 p.m.
Ki said...

Have it your way, lil-one-limry.

August 24, 2014 at 12:17 p.m.
alprova said...

The BIG whiner wrote: "Will keep away from you WHEN you post a retraction and admit it was a con."

And you know that will never be forthcoming. You had your chance to prove you were a man of your word. You failed to live up to that word.

So go %^*& yourself.

"BTW, no "confession" of defrocked priest, nor bankruptcy, but I don't see a smidgin of evidence from you Why? Because you have none. Ergo, you are a liar and deceiver with no creds. Show us some evidence, wanker."

You act as if you can make me jump at any demand you have, you silly man. I can prove both, but because I am doing everything on my part to NOT escalate this crap, I will keep it all to myself.

You fail to understand that I would be perfectly content to never exchange a word between us. Any and all accusations would disappear forever. Your reputation, such as it is, would be restored forever, if you would simply leave me alone.

It makes absolutely no difference to me whether you do or you don't. It takes me mere seconds to put you in your place every day by posting a reminder as to who exactly posted the lies you accuse me of posting in here.

Your lies are not my lies. They will remain your lies forever.

Sooner or later you're going to leave me alone. You're never going to win this little battle you have concocted in your mind.

Trolls never win. They just move on to try and torture others someplace else.

August 24, 2014 at 12:19 p.m.

6 of one, or half dozen of the other, Alprova, the point is made.

One thing has to made clear BO is a fraud and couldn't care less about the the blacks in Ferguson. What a corporate stooge and money raising tool for a thoroughly corrupt party.

He has no get up and go, except when it comes to fund raise.

He bitches about Russia, and seems to support the pro western Ukranians, but what does he do, nothing. Angela Merkel is in Ukraine meeting with pro western people. What's Bo doing, playing golf and thinking about what to eat tonight.

Worthless on the world stage.

August 24, 2014 at 12:21 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, who lies as he breathes, says "You act as if you can make me jump at any demand you have, you silly man. I can prove both, but because I am doing everything on my part to NOT escalate this crap, I will keep it all to myself. Proof positive you don't have squat. You should be embarrassed, little guy

August 24, 2014 at 12:25 p.m.

Ki, that's idiotic. Nobody wants a police state, but you've got some stupid, hippie, mentality when it comes to policeman.

August 24, 2014 at 12:27 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Prove either of those 2 charges, Alps, and I'll go away. Fair enough?

August 24, 2014 at 12:27 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^^Here's your chance, Anthony^^^

August 24, 2014 at 12:27 p.m.
alprova said...

It appears that some of you have this belief, born from God knows where, that blacks are the root of their own problems and that white people have shoved all their prejudices and bigotry under their rugs forever.

I will agree that when blacks destroy private property and loot, that they do nothing at all to bolster their reputations as responsible people that should be taken seriously.

But race relations in this nation still have a long way to go. Black people are still targeted by police far more often than are whites. Driving while black is still very much a crime in some areas, or it would seem so, given the number of times a black person is pulled over.

It really would be a fantastic study to find out how many white people go their entire lives never being involved with a cop, versus how many black people ever achieve the same statistic.

It truly amazes me how many people I have encountered in the past two weeks, who have opined that Michael Brown's theft of a box of cigars and pushing a store owner/clerk to the side when accosted, was a good enough reason for him to have lost his life.

There's no excuse for stealing. There's no excuse for strong-arming someone. But are people so callous that those two acts is reason enough to dismiss his life so easily?

How can some of you look yourself in a mirror, or lament about the killing of the unborn, if this man's life had no meaning?

If one believes that every life deserves a chance, then you have to believe that EVERY life is sacred and worth saving, even when they screw up.

That brings up another point. Who among us has not screwed up at some point in our lives? Dare I remind you that no one is immune from making mistakes or making misjudgments?

Sin is sin. There is no sin worse than another. We are all guilty of sin. That being the case, who are any one of us to look down our noses at anyone else? Who?

Every person, no matter their skin color, deserves to be considered an individual FIRST.

When people learn to do that, this nation will start to heal this continuing racial divide and misunderstanding that plagues it.

August 24, 2014 at 12:41 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

That's beautiful Alpo, But coming from a guy that libels with impunity, it's kind of hollow. Nice try, tho.

August 24, 2014 at 12:48 p.m.

Alprova, "lament the killing of the unborn" How can you do otherwise? 60 million since 1973? They didn't even have a chance to "screw up". Life at its most vulnerable, and we were all that one point in our existence.

Michael Brown robbed a store. He was a bully and it's on vid as proof. He didn't deserve to lose his life over that, but he had no regard for the owner of the store. Did he steal food, no, he stole cigars.

August 24, 2014 at 12:49 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "One thing has to made clear BO is a fraud and couldn't care less about the the blacks in Ferguson."

You know, I can't recall any other President rushing to the site where unrest has been taking place, but because the current President doesn't, he is somehow charged with being a "fraud?"

Amazing logic. Is this another one of your many "black things?"

"What a corporate stooge and money raising tool for a thoroughly corrupt party. He has no get up and go, except when it comes to fund raise."

Strictly your opinion, and as I recall, this IS one thing that EVERY OTHER President has done for their political parties. EVERY ONE OF THEM.

"He bitches about Russia, and seems to support the pro western Ukranians, but what does he do, nothing. Angela Merkel is in Ukraine meeting with pro western people."

That's GREAT!!! It's about time the rest of this world decided to jump in and do something about what goes on in this world. The United States has done it long enough.

"What's Bo doing, playing golf and thinking about what to eat tonight."

Sounds to me like you're jealous of the man and the fact that he is on vacation, while you're stuck in your armchair with nothing to do all day but post in this forum.

"Worthless on the world stage."

I'm one American who is sick to death of that world stage. %&*( 'em, feed 'em pintos and let them fart themselves to death.

If you're so eager to jump into the middle of things, have the courage of your convictions, pack your bags, hop a plane to the country of your choice, and become an ambassador of war or peace, whichever you prefer.

August 24, 2014 at 12:56 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^desperate for attention^

August 24, 2014 at 12:58 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Alprova, "lament the killing of the unborn" How can you do otherwise? 60 million since 1973? They didn't even have a chance to "screw up". Life at its most vulnerable, and we were all that one point in our existence."

Look, we know this is a Republican thing, no question.

Republicans have been trying for years to do anything and everything to force women to give birth to babies that are not wanted or that cannot be afforded.

If the Republicans had ever established privately paid orphanages or funds to be able to give to women to pay for the raising of those children, I might be inclined to side with them that they are on the right side of all this.

But that definitely is not the case, is it?

Once that child is downloaded, everyone who was previously concerned with that child's life, disappears and moves on to the next round-bellied woman.

Goochy Goochy Goo!!...Now it's all up to you!!

August 24, 2014 at 1:03 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Awaiting that proof, liar Alpo

August 24, 2014 at 1:10 p.m.

"downloaded" wow, not even birth anymore?

Republican and Democrat have nothing to do with it to me. It's simply about protecting life at it's most vulnerable.

But Democrats don't seem to mind the very "round-belied women" who sneak across the border and give birth here. Must be a racial thing, huh? Blacks and whites abort all you want, but Mexicans, Hondurans, Guatemalans, El Salvadorans and Nicaraguans "download" away!

August 24, 2014 at 1:31 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

You instructed me yesterday:

"You should read Matt. 18:15-20 and take it to heart. It says, basically, If you have a problem with someone and can't resolve it, leave the person alone - which I plan to do."

It says no such a thing!

Jesus did not say that in that passage.

You have perverted Scripture to say and mean something totally different from God's intended meaning.

You pervert sex and Scripture and I will call you out on it.

BTW, I told you that you were lying about leaving me alone and of course you soon addressed me again.

August 24, 2014 at 1:32 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Fister, do you honestly believe taking a box of cigars is "robbing" a store? He shoplifted, theft under $500, a misdemeanor. Armed or aggravated robbery is a felony. Funny that I keep hearing the right-wing pundits have taken to "robbery" in this case. It reminds me of when Hannity kept referring to Trayvon Martin pounding Zimmerman "MMA style"; "ground and pound". It's so lame.

August 24, 2014 at 1:37 p.m.
alprova said...

The BIG whiner wrote: "Awaiting that proof, liar Alpo"

Didn't your mother teach you any manners?

Do you really believe I am going to give you what you want with that attitude?

We're done for today, but if you ask me nicely tomorrow, I will give your request my undivided attention, maybe.

August 24, 2014 at 1:55 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z-fister, as GI called on you that you yourself sez, "Michael Brown robbed a store...was a bully...Did he steal ...cigars," and he clarified it is more accurately shoplifting, not robbery (yes they can charge you with assault for shoving someone). Nevertheless, the chief (sic) of police says the officer had no information about the shoplifting incident so it is completely irrelevant to keep bring it up after the fact.

For the purpose of argument, even if this lumbering kid did charge the officer with his hands raised in the air. The image is more comical than threatening except for the outcome. There is no way it is a "life and death" situation, there were plenty of options for the officer to keep control of the situation, take a sidestep, use his taser, or mace, or just trip him up and cuff him. All these actions seem more reasonable than pulling your gun and shooting 5 or 6 times rapid fire aiming with the intent to kill.

If the office was not capable of these actions, the onus falls on the police department for poor training and screening.

August 24, 2014 at 1:55 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, you silly wanker. Not about what I want; it's about you offering proof of your outlandish charges. You won't, because you can't. Come on little fellow. Put up or shut up.

August 24, 2014 at 2:05 p.m.
alprova said...

It's not hard to see the hypocrisy some people have when it comes to life.

Life of a baby? Sacred.

Life of a white man? Maybe sacred.

Life of a black man determined to be a thug? They need to die.

I get pissed off when people still consider Trayvon Martin to have been a thug deserving to die. He was doing nothing wrong. Nothing. What he had done ten hours prior to that night had nothing at all to do with what he was doing that night.

He was innocent. He was walking home. He was stalked by a cop wannabe who made the assumption that because Trayvon was black and wearing a hoodie, that he was "up to no good."

If George Zimmerman had stayed in his truck and let the REAL police handle the situation, Trayvon Martin would be alive today.

George will answer to God for what he did, because he and God both know what went down that night and I have no doubt that God will be displeased with George Zimmerman

And some of you folks believe that race relations in this nation are just hunky dory.

If reincarnation exists, and I happen to believe very strongly in it, I pray that you bigots are born black in your next life.

August 24, 2014 at 2:05 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, are you off your meds today? You're puking tripe.

August 24, 2014 at 2:08 p.m.
alprova said...

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August 24, 2014 at 2:13 p.m.
conservative said...

Speaking of irony.

inquiringmind wrote:

"You should read Matt. 18:15-20 and take it to heart. It says, basically, If you have a problem with someone and can't resolve it, leave the person alone - which I plan to do."

Setting aside his lie, the passage has to do with confronting a sinning brother INSTEAD OF LEAVING HIM ALONE!

The rich irony here is that inquiringmind would not do that in disobedience to Jesus.

Yet he cites a passage of Scripture where our Lord Jesus Christ demands that we do such!

August 24, 2014 at 2:50 p.m.
fairmon said...

The cartoon subject is not evident when reading most post. The honorable and according to him often maligned AG Holder is on the scene to help keep calm while he over sees an investigation that will burn the cops chops.

AG Holder and the governor know the white cop is guilty of a planned, premeditated and unprovoked murder of a black male.

They will not quit until they have enough facts and only the facts supporting their conclusion before prosecuting aggressively as the governor said he wanted to see. Facts carefully chosen without a hint of prejudice? Hopefully the same can be said for those that are ignored or discarded.

Yes, the irony of it all!

August 24, 2014 at 3:10 p.m.
Ki said...

zabby thinks I have some "stupid hippie mentality when it comes to policeman"

Actually only when it comes to the predator type policeman who use his/her badge as a cover to abuse vulernable citizens. Like this former eastern Michigan university football player turn Oklahoma City cop accused of sexually assaulting women, primarily black ones, during stops. Link:

Cop, Daniel ken holzclaw accused: http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/08/oklahoma_city_police_officer_daniel_holtzclaw_sexual_assault_emu.html

Incidents like this aren't a rarity, they've become more and more routine again. Why did america allow such an organization with a history of corruption, brutality, abuse and abuse of power to become so powerful in the first place? In some areas of the country they even control the courts and outcome of trials.

August 24, 2014 at 3:24 p.m.
Ki said...

Don't worry overly much, fairmon. Wilson can likely resign like most cops in trouble and later become a cop elsewhere . Say lak------chattanooga or sumthin'

August 24, 2014 at 3:28 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Ki, how is it you're so convinced of the cop's guilt? Please explain, madam.

August 24, 2014 at 3:36 p.m.
Ki said...

I said accused. However, it does fit a long known pattern that dates back decades.

August 24, 2014 at 3:43 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

You wrote:

"Unless you operate from the perspective that everything in the KJV of the Bible is the absolute, literal inerrant truth then you can learn a lot from almost anyone to refine your understanding of the Bible"

You mean like John Crossan, the heretic and apostate who you inquiringmind recommended to read.

You know, the one who says the Resurrection did not happen.

And the irony of your failure to deceive and my success in exposing you.

August 24, 2014 at 3:49 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

OCD IMO

August 24, 2014 at 4 p.m.

Ki, stop it. You're ridiculous. You must really want Wilson to be labeled a racist and guilty of killing Brown just because he was black. Not going to happen. I know you've invested a lot of time on here labeling him guilty, but you look like an ass

"it does fit a pattern that dates back decades" LOL

Desperate, desperate.

I guess that means Wilson is guilty. Go to Ferguson and make a citizens arrest then, if you're so sure. Go there and tell them his features prove that he's a "neo nazi ss stormtrooper"

LOL

You fit a pattern, a pattern of a bed wetting lib throwing a tantrum until you get your way. Wait for the facts to come out.

If Wilson did something wrong, then he'll pay for it, if not you look ridiculous.

August 24, 2014 at 5:16 p.m.

The only solid proof of anything so far is that Brown is guilty of robbery and being a bully.

August 24, 2014 at 5:17 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

alprova posts "There isn't going to be anything posted anew today, is there? The same old tired crap from the same old tired people." this from a guy that posted at least 500 times that I was a bankrupt, pervert, & defrocked priest. Without offering evidence. Now who are "the tired old people" he speaks of?

August 24, 2014 at 5:24 p.m.

Guass, he stole something from the store. It's called theft. He bullied the store worker who looks half his size. He's a bully.

I have no idea if the shooting had to do with that. It does tell me he's a bully and a thief. And the problem with that conclusion is?

Look at you libs trying to convince everyone that what Brown did isn't so bad. It is what it is. He stole and he bullied. I didn't say he's a mass murderer and deserved to be shot. The vid tells me some things.

You libs are wacked. You have a vid of him robbing/stealing..whatever a store, and bullying the store clerk, but he's not a bully and thief according to you. But, Wilson, according to Ki, is "neo nazi ss stormtrooper" because his features resemble one.

August 24, 2014 at 5:33 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

You wrote:

"Unless you operate from the perspective that everything in the KJV of the Bible is the absolute, literal inerrant truth then you can learn a lot from almost anyone to refine your understanding of the Bible"

Well, God's word is inerrant and there are NO doctrinal errors in the King James.

So,name them, you judge of Bibles.

Another irony here is that inquiringmind has to believe the inerrant doctrinal truths of the King James to be a Christian but says that one cannot "operate from the perspective that everything in the KJV of the Bible is the absolute, literal inerrant truth...."

If you are thinking that his statement is an attack on the sufficiency of Scripture, you would be most correct!

August 24, 2014 at 5:33 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z the issue here is the action of the policeman who killed the boy, not whether or not he lifted some cigars the cop knew nothing about. Whatever happened in that store is irrelevant to the killing.

August 24, 2014 at 5:50 p.m.

I didn't say it was the issue. I realize his actions in the store have nothing to do with the shooting, as far as I know.

The issue is not just the policeman's actions, but Brown's as well. Did he attack the policeman? Did the policeman overreact and shoot him for nothing? Was the policeman justified in shooting him? Why was he shot 8 times. Browns behavior has to be examined as well.

Holder, all you libs, Sharpton and all the other race hustlers have desperately tried to give the impression that brown was hot for being black. No evidence of that so far.

August 24, 2014 at 5:59 p.m.
Ki said...

zabby, I don't have to want for Wilson to be guilty of anything. He IS if nothing else of shooting an unarmed man, black/white or other, attempting to surrender, according to witnesses. Wilson had no idea or knowledge of the allege store incident having even taken place when he crossed paths with Brown and his friend walking in the street. In fact some witnesses have said Wilson initially passed Brown and his friend then turned around and came back allegedly cussing at them to "get the f$#k on the sidewalk" or "get the f$#k out of the street"

Wilson's stopping Brown and even killing him had absolutely nothing to do with anything prior to any of that.

Also, the conversation jackzun and I were having has nothing to do with Wilson and was about a forner football player turned oklahoma city cop accused of raping and forcing them to perform other sex acts on him during traffic stoos and other encounters of mostly black women.

Of all women least likely to report a sexual assault, especially by an authority figure, black women are at the very top if that list to least report it, because there's a history especially not believing black women victims of such acts, and young black men too when the accused is a person with authority such as a cop. That's how those Atlanta cops called the Red Dog Unit got away with sexually assaulting young black men during traffic stops it stop truck.

August 24, 2014 at 6:28 p.m.

Ki, it seems that you have all the answers. Go to Ferguson then.

Speculation, speculation, speculation. The truth is you just don't know. Neither do I. You don't know if he shot an unarmed black man. What if Brown grabbed a gun? Do you know that for sure? Witnesses that all happen to back up what you want. You don't know, you just don't know.

Your posts are just full of charges and attacks on policeman in general.

August 24, 2014 at 6:34 p.m.
Ki said...

Why go to Ferguson, zabby when what happened in Ferguson has happened somewhere all across the nation at some point in time? Even locally.

Watchit, y'all. Seems like zabby is on the verge if blowing a major fuse and spewing whale blubber all over everyone. eeeeeWWWWW!

August 24, 2014 at 6:36 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Fister, I think Fox News and yourself are attempting to make Brown appear to be a worse person by saying he robbed a store instead of shoplifting. It makes you no better then the news outlets that were calling Brown "a gentle giant" after the shooting. I mean taking the opposite side of a news story doesn't make one "fair and balanced". I mean, seeing that video at the store changed my opinion a bit, but I don't think it is honest to call the guy a "robber".

August 24, 2014 at 6:59 p.m.

Ki, not at all. You are. you come across like a desperate person who loves to convict someone with no proof just so it meets your agenda. You're no different than Al Sharpton.

Guass....... He robbed the store. He took something without paying for it. Term it any way you want. He stole and he bullied, period. "A worse person" ? What does it tell you about someone who walks into a store, steals something, and bullies the store clerks? It tells me he's a bully, and a thief. He didn't steal a gallon of milk, or eggs, or some other necessity, he stole cigars. A law abiding, moral, and empathetic person wouldn't do what he did. The item he stole tells me a lot. All I know about him is from the vid. Stealing is stealing, but if he stole something because he was starving, then I might think differently.

Ki, I'm 6'1 175. You wouldn't find much blubber. Probably more in your fat ass as you sit there typing nonsense.

August 24, 2014 at 7:11 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "The only solid proof of anything so far is that Brown is guilty of robbery and being a bully."

The more I think about this, the more I feel the terms involved need to be amended.

Robbery usually involves the use of a weapon and the theft of money. Shoplifting is the theft of merchandise.

The most he would have been convicted for was for shoplifting of merchandise valued less than $200 and intimidation. A shove is not assault.

August 24, 2014 at 7:23 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "You don't know if he shot an unarmed black man. What if Brown grabbed a gun? Do you know that for sure? Witnesses that all happen to back up what you want. You don't know, you just don't know."

Now you're reaching for facts that are just not even close to being true.

Brown grabbed a gun? FROM WHERE? From who?

The police Reports are all publicly available online. I've read them. Have you?

If Brown had a gun, did it magically disappear?

You're becoming difficult to discuss anything with, because you cannot stick to what people actually type and instead you attribute words never typed by them to them or you attempt to tell them what they believe.

Enough with that crap.

Quit telling others what they believe until they type it.

August 24, 2014 at 7:31 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Heisman Trophy winner Jameis Winston shoplifted a dollar amount similar to Brown. Winston received no jail time and no penalty from FSU. If Brown would have been arrested and charged, I would suspect he would receive a fine and community service, being a first offense. Armed or aggravated robbery carries about a 5 year sentence. Robbery and shoplifting do not mean the same thing.

August 24, 2014 at 7:39 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "you come across like a desperate person who loves to convict someone with no proof just so it meets your agenda. You're no different than Al Sharpton."

Do you realize how hypocritical that is, given the way you have vilified the dead man who can no longer speak for himself?

You're defending this cop, who put six bullets in Michael Brown, after discharging who knows how many others that did not hit him. Several wound up in housing surrounding the shooting scene.

The vehicle the cop was driving was evidence. He drove off with it minutes after the shooting.

Videos take at the scene by residents around the shooting scene do not back up this story that the officer was injured in the slightest.

No hospital reports have been placed for public viewing. Nothing mentioned in the police reports initially released indicate the officer was injured. So just exactly when was this cop injured and by whom?

Months to come to a conclusion? To have a hearing? Cover-up, here we come.

Five days after the shooting was when all this crap came out about the officer being injured.

It smells as badly as the corpse of Michael Brown probably does by now.

Darren Wilson did not leave his home on August the ninth with any intention of shooting an unarmed black man, but he ended his shift after having done so and there were several witnesses to what he did and how he did it.

If you read Matt Drudge or read or watch Faux News, you're not hearing the testimony of those who saw EXACTLY what happened and who all state the same things, but you will hear a recorded sound bite from a woman who knows the officer and who relates his story, which is bunk from start to finish.

August 24, 2014 at 7:44 p.m.
Ki said...

zabby , I'm just relaying info as it becomes available. Youre the one who's gone postal and personal on the issue. I speak from knowledge and experience.
There was something that kept taking me back to Jennings and Wilson's old job there. Now I know why.

Here's something else that's come to light about Wilson's other job when he was police at the Jennings police dept.. While much of the focus has been on Brown's character, heres something of interest to note and may help to explain how/why wilson reacted the way he did in his encounter with Brown: The entire police dept. In jennings missouri was disband for corruption and excessive use of force, according to an investigation and article by the NY Post.Although there's nothing particular in Wilson's personnel file, which doesn't mean anything as bad cops are often allowed to leave or resign with nothing mentioned of their behavior in their files. Jennings is also a predominately black town/impoverished with its black populace at about 87% and the police force was all it nearly all white. Don't know the racial makeup now of the police force there after the one while Wilson was there has since been disband.

da zab speaks: no different than al sharpton

Now that's really really priceless! Lol

August 24, 2014 at 7:56 p.m.
fairmon said...

zableedofisterix said...

Ki, not at all. You are. you come across like a desperate person who loves to convict someone with no proof just so it meets your agenda. You're no different than Al Sharpton.

WTF did Al Sharpton do to deserve a put down like that zablee?

Ki and alprova could save the tax payers a lot of money by letting the investigators know the answer now instead of spending all that time completing the investigation.

August 24, 2014 at 8:47 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Lynch mob. Get a rope, eh?

August 24, 2014 at 8:48 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

So, Z, we will see what happens. We will see if the "witnesses" accounts related in the press articles hold up under oath, and we will see how much leeway the DA and/or grand jury and/or jurors of his peers in a town noted for racial issues give a well trained police officer to shoot and kill an allegedly unarmed teenager who had his hands raised but body leaning forward, in broad daylight in the middle of a public street in front of witnesses.

I don't believe Al Sharpton was a witness to the event.

August 24, 2014 at 8:54 p.m.
fairmon said...

Ki said...

Don't worry overly much, fairmon. Wilson can likely resign like most cops in trouble and later become a cop elsewhere . Say lak------chattanooga or sumthin'

I read my post because I am not worried at all much less overly so and didn't convey worry. You are the one worried that all police officers in the country are not viewed negatively and treated as criminals. I personally don't give a shat what happens to the cop and I have no remorse for a bully and thief. The conduct and character displayed when he walked back in the store and shoved the scrawny clerk again with the stolen merchandise under his arm said a lot about him. I would prefer the cop hadn't shot him but screw him. He is dead and I don't care and wouldn't care if he were white or some other race. I guess most people think that was the first and only time he stole and bullied someone much smaller.

August 24, 2014 at 9:07 p.m.
Maximus said...

The Rev. Al Sharpton was once a Presidential candidate, wow, only in America! No Ki and others who look for politicians to make things fair and give them a leg up in life understand this...politicians are in it for two things........power and money.

The greatest lesson that you can teach your kids is self-reliance and personal responsibility. Teach them those two things and society will continue to advance. Obama and the Democrats with their...."you did not build that" ....is the number one reason to vote Republican but at the end of the day Republicans or Democrats do NOT pay your bills, raise your kids, or build your wealth.....YOU DO! America is the greatest country in the world because YOU have the freedom to pursue your dreams. Ki, get over it and get to work!

August 24, 2014 at 9:10 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Ki and alprova could save the tax payers a lot of money by letting the investigators know the answer now instead of spending all that time completing the investigation."

Do you really believe that there is anything more to investigate after two full weeks?

If so, then what?

August 24, 2014 at 9:10 p.m.
Maximus said...

Uhhhh, Alprova and Clay, people have moved on from the Ferguson story. How about a cartoon of Obama playing golf while ISIS is slitting the throat of an American on utube. Obama will go down in history as the worst POTUS. The only reason the pimp has not been impeached is his skin color. Sad.

August 24, 2014 at 9:15 p.m.
Maximus said...

If a perp bum rushes a cop that has ordered them to stop, the perp is going down. Stop all the drama. Again you Dems with time on your hands love to blow things way way out of proportion. Over 90% of crime committed on blacks in the U.S. Is done by other blacks. Work on that issue Ki. What kind of name is Ki? Afro-centric like Tamika? Come on man!

August 24, 2014 at 9:22 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said..Do you really believe that there is anything more to investigate after two full weeks?

If so, then what?

I don't know ask the AG Eric Holder what the hold up is. You know how sensitive I am I wouldn't care if they put the cop in jail for life or execution and told everyone to go home and quit stealing stuff and destroying hard working peoples business or they would be joining him. Sounds insensitive but anyone wanting to be a cop needs to know the possible consequences.

August 24, 2014 at 9:25 p.m.
Ki said...

And you would be horribly wrong, fairymon , in your ASSumption of me pertaining to all police should be viewed negatively. Especially since I come from along family line of members in various levels of the field.

Like the old saying goes: "There are good cops and there are bad cops, but there are NO good cops until the "good" cops start to arrest the bad cops"

The same way the medical and teaching field had to start seriously discipling, getting rid of, and in some cases having their own prosecuted for illegal, incompetent and criminal behavior, if policing in america is to countinue, they will have to take seriously and rogue, dirty and criminal cops, instead of covering for them or shuffling them on to other police agencies who often hide or ignore anything negative in their personnel file.

The reason theres often such a high turnover rate and lack of ability to retain potentially good cops is because good cops don't want to work along due the crooks.

August 24, 2014 at 9:38 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

maxi (9:10PM post),

George Wallace was a candidate for President, only in America. R.M. Nixon was a candidate for President, only in Amerika. Herbert Hoover ran for president- only in America. George Herbert Bush the younger ran for president, only in America.

You disrespect the man executed by ISIL as well as his family. He chose to be where he worked, fully knowing the risks. Sooner or later the executioner will pay a price. To blame it on President Obama is simply...the white rage of an ignorant caucasian.

As for teaching one's children, Crosby Stills Nash and Young said it well. To respect copyright (CROSBY, STILLS, NASH & YOUNG lyrics are property and copyright of their owners. (Writer: Graham Nash Copyright: Nash Notes) "Teach Your Children" lyrics provided for educational purposes only.) I provide only extended excerpts* to illustrate the educational point of what two-way teaching in a family entails:

"You, who are on the road must have a code that you can live by... Teach your children well, their father's hell did slowly go by, And feed them on your dreams, ...

Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry, So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.

And you, of the tender years, can't know the fears that your elders grew by, And so please help them with your youth, they seek the truth before they can die. Teach your parents well, their children's hell will slowly go by, And feed them on your dreams, ...

Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry, So just look at them and sigh and know they love you." (Even you connie, even you.)

*full lyrics at http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/crosbystillsnashyoung/teachyourchildren.html who assert a copyright on the content of the web site.

August 24, 2014 at 9:40 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "I don't know ask the AG Eric Holder what the hold up is."

I expected better from you than that.

Since the Attorney General's office jumped in late on this thing, I expect it will take longer for that investigation to be completed, but that has nothing at all to do with the St. Louis County investigation, in which the District Attorney will or will not seek an indictment of Darren Wilson on charges related to the shooting.

I would think that every witness has been interviewed. We know the forensic evidence has been completed.

The only thing not being released publicly is the cop's written statement, hospital records related to the alleged injury that Darren Wilson claims, evidence from the vehicle Darren Wilson was driving....OOPS, that may not be coming after all for Darren Wilson drove it from the scene of the shooting minutes afterward.

What idiot authorized Darren Wilson to drive away the one piece of evidence that might substantiate his side of the story? Or could it be that nothing at all will back up his story?

I've read on no one who would go on camera or identify themselves as having seen Michael Brown attacking the officer. Every word of that is coming from Darren Wilson...period.

August 24, 2014 at 9:57 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ is on the bong tonite.

August 24, 2014 at 10 p.m.

inq, LOL ..so deep and profound. gag. The best that pot has to offer.

August 24, 2014 at 10:04 p.m.

Inq, Tawana Brawley. Sharpton is a pig and race hustler.

August 24, 2014 at 10:07 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Been many years ago my friends but the lyrics are as true today as then, I don't even know where to go to fill a bong.

August 24, 2014 at 10:15 p.m.
alprova said...

inquiringmind wrote: "You disrespect the man executed by ISIS as well as his family. He chose to be where he worked, fully knowing the risks. Sooner or later the executioner will pay a price. To blame it on President Obama is simply...the white rage of an ignorant caucasian."

And that's exactly what Maximyth is.

I've been laughing all week at the people who have been raising hell because the President went back to his vacation after speaking to the American people regarding the beheading.

What was he supposed to do? What would meet the approval of all the Obama bashers out there? I've not yet read a word about what the "proper" thing to do would have been.

Everyone else not in the immediate family of the young man went on with their lives, most not even tuning in to the broadcast of the President speaking about the death.

Hypocrites. The lot of you.

Did one of you people alter your life for so much as five seconds because James Foley was beheaded?

What makes you believe the President is or should be any different?

He'd have caught hell if he'd landed Air Force One to go to the scene of Michael Brown's death, wouldn't he? But he didn't and he barely spoke about it.

Some of you people have no idea what a President is supposed and not supposed to do. He's just as human as you and I.

The early/untimely death of anyone is a tragedy, but people die every day before they are expected to. Every day. Most die in car accidents.

FACT: When an American goes to the Middle East, they run the risk of finding themselves victim of an early death.

FACT: When one is walking down the middle of the street anywhere in this nation, one does not expect that it will result in their early death.

It's not hard to understand why Michael Brown's death got far more attention that did the death of James Foley.

What is hard to understand is why some people think James Foley's life was any more of a loss than Michael Brown's.

August 24, 2014 at 10:16 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Inq, Tawana Brawley. Sharpton is a pig and race hustler."

And since no one in this forum has EVER defended the man, why do you continuously bring him up, as if we do?

August 24, 2014 at 10:22 p.m.

Maximus brought up that Sharpton was once a presidential candidate, that was post Tawana Brawley.

August 24, 2014 at 11:44 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...I've read on no one who would go on camera or identify themselves as having seen Michael Brown attacking the officer.

Neither have I but I haven't watched or read everything about the issue. It would take an idiot with the current circumstances to be identified and publicly state such even if it were a fact which no one knows if it is or not at this point.

August 25, 2014 at 1:04 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...Since the Attorney General's office jumped in late on this thing, I expect it will take longer for that investigation to be completed, but that has nothing at all to do with the St. Louis County investigation, in which the District Attorney will or will not seek an indictment of Darren Wilson on charges related to the shooting.

I would think that every witness has been interviewed. We know the forensic evidence has been completed.


Did I not see where Holder and company will investigate and decide if it was a hate crime before charges are filed?

I have never understood why exactly the same crime has a less severe punishment in one case vs. another. What brilliant mind decided if a person is killed by another for a certain reason it is not as bad as murdering them for some other reason. Is it a hate crime if a black Muslim kills a KKK member? One problem today that did not exist just a few years ago is the number of laws generated by legislatures, so many no one knows the total count. There are laws that conflict and subject a person to litigation either way they go. A lawyers advice is just pick which you prefer being sued for.

Need a lawyer? Make sure you get a one armed one that can't say well on this hand but on the other hand and btw my fee runs from $350 to $500 an hour.

August 25, 2014 at 1:17 a.m.
fairmon said...

ki said....The same way the medical and teaching field had to start seriously discipling, getting rid of, and in some cases having their own prosecuted for illegal, incompetent and criminal behavior.

Who are you kidding? Get rid of all the incompetent teachers and there will be a shortage. Both fields are full of incompetent and those prosecuted really had to have committed a real bad criminal act.

The police, in most cases, do a better job than the organizations you named in investigating and disciplining their own although not in every case especially in smaller towns and cities. The percent incompetent in the police field is not as high as education and medical. The current education system is a sad situation when the dollars spent per student is considered.

August 25, 2014 at 1:30 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

fairmon, Police never do a good job of investigating and disciplining their own, that is a ridiculous assertion.

August 25, 2014 at 6:39 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Did I not see where Holder and company will investigate and decide if it was a hate crime before charges are filed?"

Federal charges are completely separate from those which will or will not be filed in St. Louis County.

Holder cannot try the officer for murder or any lesser crime related to the shooting. Those are state charges.

Civil Rights violations are as far as the Justice Department can go.

August 25, 2014 at 7:44 a.m.
conservative said...

inquringmind

I have been reading some of your mentor John Crossan.

This is one deceiving heathen you have latched on to.

I see where you got your knack for perverting Scripture.

Here is one of his milder perversions:

"The historical Jesus launched a non-violent revolution against violent imperialism (excuse that redundancy) in its contemporary Roman incarnation. In John's climactic parable, Pilate and Jesus are imagined in conversation and Jesus explains that, "My kingdom is not from this world. If my kingdom were from this world, my followers would be fighting to keep me from being handed over" (18:36). Clear enough: Your Kingdom of Rome, Pilate, is based on violence; the Kingdom of God is not, and will not use violence even to free me."

http://www.patheos.com/Progressive-Christian/Character-Christian-God-John-Dominic-Crossan-09-09-2013?offset=1&max=1

August 25, 2014 at 7:45 a.m.
Maximus said...

How come Holder has not made a trip down to Mexico to demand the release of the U.S. Marine they have unjustly held for months? Holder is a racist, no question about it. Worst AG ever!

August 25, 2014 at 8:47 a.m.
Maximus said...

Inquiring...first off I am black, secondly, Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young a bunch of doper hippies. What? I think it was David Crosby that let his sperm be used to impregnate that lesbian one hit wonder singer Melissa Etheridge. Weird! No, I would not let CSNY, teach my kids anything.

And Alprova there are hundreds of thugs like Michael Browns killed every night in the U.S. by other blacks. There was a shooting in Hollyweird last night after the MTV Awards. One black rapper shot another black rapper. I'm telling you all it is the violent thug culture glamorized in black rap music that is encouraging violence toward women and murder in the black community yet....Obama is buddy buddy with rapper Jay Z and others. Alprova, ever listen to any Rick Ross or Lil Wayne aka...Weezy? Nasty stuff that little black kids listen to and then act out in the streets. Where is Rev. Al Sharpton's march against violent rap music? Hmmmm. As usual, it is about the money.

August 25, 2014 at 9:10 a.m.
alprova said...

Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi entered the country of Mexico with three guns in the back of his pickup, which were illegal.

It makes no matter whether he meant to enter the country or not. He entered it, and he could have notified the U.S. authorities to his plight before crossing that border on the Mexican side.

No one crosses that border against their will, as he has claimed. That particular crossing has two lanes dedicated to turning vehicles around if they wind up there in error.

In time, Mexico will turn him loose.

August 25, 2014 at 9:13 a.m.
conservative said...

I had to call the TFP to get some of my comments restored.

I also reported the profanity and vulgarity used by many here and I named names.

August 25, 2014 at 9:26 a.m.
fairmon said...

inquiringmind said...

fairmon, Police never do a good job of investigating and disciplining their own, that is a ridiculous assertion.

Teachers certainly don't. The teachers and weak school board members and administrators go all out to protect incompetent teachers. They pass students that can't read or write and do simple math and keep teachers that can't or don't teach.

The medical profession doesn't have an investigative branch and malpractice insurance is out of sight.

At least some police organizations have an effective internal affairs organization. There are policeman that should not be that are bad but no worse than government, educators, medical and others.

August 25, 2014 at 9:34 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

Maxi, can only tell your color by your comments, you sound pretty white to me, but the color of your skin is not as important as the color of your heart.

Graham Nash wrote the lyrics. But perhaps the Village People and YMCA is closer to your musical taste. I fail to see what artificial insemination has to do with the subject line of this discussion.

You offer a facile solution to a complex problem, to say it is thugs against thugs. It's a problem of not teaching your children well.

I have heard nothing remotely racist in remarks by Mr. Holder. He expresses the issues frankly and bluntly, something that needs to be heard.

August 25, 2014 at 9:38 a.m.
Ki said...

I disagree, fairymon . The cops you normally hear about the dept. dumping usually have become such a liability for them and the union that they're more than happy to get rid of them. Either that or they're some dept. sacrifice when the media get down to business and starts digging too deep or the public puts the pressure on and demand answers and start asking all the right questions.

When I spoke about teachers and the medical profession I was referring to that period not all that long ago where those two profession, like many police depts around the nation today, would allow individuals who'd committed serious, sometimes criminal offenses, quietly resign rather than deal with and address the problems and hold the offenders accountable. Doctors showing up drunk, stoned or both to perform surgery, nurses becoming addicted to medications they handled. Sexual predators preying on students etc. in the field. What you and other see when the police seriously go after one of their own is actually more a rarity than the norm. Most, protected especially by police unions, are either retained and advised to "just keep a low profile" until things cool down, or they're allowed to quietly go with nothing about their being problem cops on their personnel files. Where they sometimes show up at another agency bringing all their problem baggage with them. Sometimes that new agency may not know of the problem, but most often they do. It's called muni shuffle.

August 25, 2014 at 9:39 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

Connie I love it the way you leap to judgment on the thinnest of possibilities and seek to turn the discussion onto something it is not about, you sez, " This is one deceiving heathen you have latched on to...I see where you got your knack for perverting Scripture."

It is odd that you object to or deny Jesus saying His kingdom is not of this world and forbidding his followers to use violence to free Him, two things clearly stated in scripture that you embrace literally, yet you call Jesus a perversion for saying it. Paul also restates this position several times in his epistles.

What kind of Christian are you anyway, you sound like you are out on the fringe counterbalancing the others you dislike? It is only the Gospel According to Connie that refutes the heart of His teaching.

But, I am glad to see you have been reading up on Crossan, have you read up on the second author, or read the book In Search of Paul? Try the Niebuhr brothers at the same time. It is a lot of reading but you get both sides of the coin (no pun intended) from them. There is hope for you yet.

August 25, 2014 at 9:49 a.m.
Ki said...

Another one:

Iberia Parish coroner's preliminary report shows handcuffed man state police claim committed suicide while inside police car by shooting himself in the back was actually shot in the chest. Police lied? no way!! {sarcasm}£

http://www.katc.com/news/autopsy-report-victor-white-iii-shot-in-the-chest-not-back/

August 25, 2014 at 9:50 a.m.

"you sound pretty white to me" there you go again, inq. What should a black American sound like, what should he believe in, or how should he behave? Pathetic.

Your devotion to pot infused lyrics in songs from the 1960 tells me all I need to know.

Teacher union are about making sure teachers stay employed no matter what. Even perverts are defended by unions.

I read some teacher compared the rioting and looting in Ferguson to the Boston Tea Party. Dumb ass.

August 25, 2014 at 9:50 a.m.
Ki said...

da zab said: teacher unions are about making sure teachers stay employed. Even perverts are defended by unions.

Above: bold/ italics : and police unions are at the top of the list for unions who fight to retain their perverts.

August 25, 2014 at 10:06 a.m.

Max is correct, black on black crime is the nightmare that the literal dumb asses/race hustlers like Sharpton don't really address. They need the police to be the bogeyman. After all, there's more money in it.

The larger problem for all Americans is the growing police state on the federal level. BO and Holder love that idea.

August 25, 2014 at 10:09 a.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

You wrote:

"It is odd that you object to or deny Jesus saying His kingdom is not of this world and forbidding his followers to use violence to free Him,...."

I did neither, you made that up.

You wrote:

"yet you call Jesus a perversion for saying it."

Again, inquiringmind, you lied.

August 25, 2014 at 10:10 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

Har! Z sez "pot infused lyrics," as if. What about Van Gogh? What about GWB the Younger? I don't project what "a black American" should sound like, only observe that the attitude Maxi expresses sounds awful redneck white. He could offer more cogent explanations for his opinion.

August 25, 2014 at 10:14 a.m.

Ki, go see a psychologist. You have some kind of fixation on the police. Maybe your daddy was a policeman and you're projecting your hate on to all policeman. Was he too strict, too many rules? LOL Liberalism is mental disorder.

August 25, 2014 at 10:18 a.m.

What about them, inq? A guy who cut off his ear and had obvious mental problems, and GWB? By your logic, pot helped GWB, yet you libs can't stand him.

August 25, 2014 at 10:22 a.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "I had to call the TFP to get some of my comments restored."

Good for you!!

"I also reported the profanity and vulgarity used by many here and I named names."

Did you give them my name? Did you whine about my profane responses to the heathen inspired crap you spew in here on a daily basis? I'll bet the laughed their asses off the minute they got off the phone with you.

I'm a paying customer. Are you? Do you steal access to this site when you should be paying for it?

August 25, 2014 at 10:26 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo ridicules Connie whining to TFP. How about you, lie-boy? How many complaints have you lodged? What a freakin hypocritical doosh.

August 25, 2014 at 10:30 a.m.
alprova said...

inquiringmind wrote: "It is odd that you object to or deny Jesus saying His kingdom is not of this world and forbidding his followers to use violence to free Him,...."

Connie replied with: "I did neither, you made that up."

He did no such thing. You can never comprehend a damn thing you read, even when it is scripture.

The EXACT quote from the book you called perverted reads as follows:

*"My kingdom is not from this world. If my kingdom were from this world, my followers would be fighting to keep me from being handed over" - John 18:36

"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." - John 18:36 KJV

Hence, the writer concludes: "Your Kingdom of Rome, Pilate, is based on violence; the Kingdom of God is not, and will not use violence even to free me."

Where is any perversion of the scripture?

Only you have perverted it.

August 25, 2014 at 10:37 a.m.
conservative said...

The gentleman I spoke to was laughing so hard while he promptly put my comments back up.

Hey, and they love to accommodate those who don't have a subscription!

You just have to know how to talk to people without being vulgar and using profanity.

It seems some will never learn that.

August 25, 2014 at 10:40 a.m.
alprova said...

Big whiner, I have lodged no complaints against a soul.

Your whining backfired on you.

What? Did you think they were going to stop my posting on that one issue and allow you to carry on with your falsified crap?

Clearly, you got the message.

August 25, 2014 at 10:44 a.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "The gentleman I spoke to was laughing so hard while he promptly put my comments back up."

Did you think he was laughing with you, or at you?

*"Hey, and they love to accommodate those who don't have a subscription!""

I was right. You ARE stealing access. Thou thief!!

August 25, 2014 at 10:47 a.m.
conservative said...

INQUIRINGMIND

Your boy wrote:

"The historical Jesus launched a non-violent revolution against violent imperialism (excuse that redundancy) in its contemporary Roman incarnation."

This PERVERSION by your boy was not the mission of Jesus Christ.

Your boy, like yourself, pervert the Gospel into "social justice" and "redistribution of wealth" and "equality."

Nowhere in his article that I cited and excerpted does your mentor, John Crossan, even mention "sin" or "redemption" or the true purpose of Christ.

August 25, 2014 at 10:49 a.m.
conservative said...

"I was right."

Never once with me.

"You ARE stealing access."

Another lie!

"Thou thief!!"

Another lie!

August 25, 2014 at 10:53 a.m.
conservative said...

INQUIRINGMIND

Your mentor wrote:

"In John's climactic parable..."

It is not a parable, that is a lie.

I dare you to try and differ with the true Biblical account of Jesus before Pilate.

It is certainly not a parable about social justice.

To say or imply this is a perversion of Scripture which your boy John Crossan did.

August 25, 2014 at 10:58 a.m.
conservative said...

INQUIRINGMIND

You wrote:

"To kill someone to protect your own family, self or possessions reduces you to the same level as your adversary."

From reading some of the perversions of Scripture by John Crossan, I can now see where you may have gotten this crazy notion.

John Crossan is not the only one who perverts the Gospel into social justice.

August 25, 2014 at 11:07 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alprova is the most disingenuous, hypocritical, pompous, libelous liar ever on this forum. He's the one that should be banned. Or, at the least, ignored.

August 25, 2014 at 11:11 a.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "Never once with me."

Well guess what clown? You don't count for sh!t...

I wrote: "You ARE stealing access."

Connie Responded: "Another lie!"

Is it really? The TFP has a pay wall. There is only one way to go around that pay wall and if you are not paying for access, then you are STEALING access to certain parts of this site.

Theft is theft.

I wrote: "Thou thief!!"

Connie whined: "Another lie!"

I've got you pegged to the wall this time, not that you ar alone in stealing access, but you are indeed a thief and you need to pay up.

August 25, 2014 at 11:21 a.m.
Ki said...

da zabbler said: "ki, maybe your daddy was a cop, strict with too many rules

Nope! On both fronts. However, there's been far too many perverts and other power crazed cops allowed to become cops, even when psychological exams and psychologists warned against hiring them.

psssst, you seem to be obsessed with hating on black people and other minorities. Since you claim to be black in a previous post, maybe you're one of those sellf-haters. Theres nithing more pathetic than a sekf-hater. Maybe you shoukd seek professional help to help you learn to love yourself? huh/queppie?

August 25, 2014 at 11:21 a.m.
alprova said...

Big whiner, you need to take responsibility for your own lies, which were created from your own computer;

Remember?

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270586

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270592

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270593

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270595

Jackie, I'm a paying customer. No one will be banning me. Are you a thief too? Do you pay for your access?

Mayber I should call and check on you folk.

August 25, 2014 at 11:24 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Ki, you do seem obsessed with race. Don't let your obsessions turn you into another Alprova. You're better than that.

August 25, 2014 at 11:25 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, you can re-post those tired, hackneyed links till the cows come home. They won't change the fact that you're a monumental liar and libeler.

August 25, 2014 at 11:27 a.m.
alprova said...

Jack, quit trying to make out with the posters. He's not tight with you.

August 25, 2014 at 11:30 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Unlike you, liar, I'm not here to recruit pals. You're seriously sick. And nasty.

August 25, 2014 at 11:32 a.m.
conservative said...

"I've got you pegged to the wall this time, not that you ar alone in stealing access, but you are indeed a thief and you need to pay up."

This is one troubled man!

August 25, 2014 at 11:32 a.m.
Ki said...

Nope/jackzun the topic is about race and police interaction with individuals depending upon their race. I'm just not ignoring the reality of the cops issue nor attempting to change the subject or pretend there's no problem. I'm also simply responding to what's being thrown my way by others. If they don't want a response, an honest one at that, they have the right and ability to ignore what I post altogether.

Well, gotta run, peeps! See ya' all later.

Alprova keep'em on their toes and running, you and inq. Show a lil mercy to an obviously confused conservy, though. ;)

August 25, 2014 at 11:34 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

connie, We tire of your obtuseness. You can't say one thing and then deny it in the next breath, and expect anyone to take you seriously.

Here are your words from 7:45AM today (edited to reduce space), Connie sez, "Here is one of his milder perversions: 'Jesus explains that, "My kingdom is not from this world. If my kingdom were from this world, my followers would be fighting to keep me from being handed over'(18:36). Clear enough: ...the Kingdom of God is not, and will not use violence even to free me."

You clearly call Jesus' words a perversion in this sentence, or you are a sloppy writer trying to make some other point about perversion. Here is supporting documentation on Jesus' take on violence, including deadly violence:

Luke 22:50-51: " Then one of them struck the slave of the high priest and cut off his right ear. But Jesus said, “No more of this!” And he touched his ear and healed him. "

John 18:10-11: "Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it, struck the high priest’s slave, and cut off his right ear... Jesus said to Peter, 'Put your sword back into its sheath. Am I not to drink the cup that the Father has given me?'"

Luke 12:4-5:  “I tell you, my friends, do not fear those who kill the body, and after that can do nothing more. But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him!"

Cite one example where Jesus exercised deadly violence or condoned its use. I can cite numerous admonitions to avoid violence, the essence of the Cross is non-violence towards others in confidence of faith. That we are compelled to ignore, excuse or condone it's exercise does not defend our violence.

Our willingness to kill to defend our family, dear lady, is based on our greed to hold onto them against a divine plan. Since everything under the sun is ordained by God, obviously one who resists God's plan this way does not trust God because they seek to counter God's will in preference to their own (See Jer 1:4-5b).

August 25, 2014 at 11:39 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Academy Award-winning actor Morgan Freeman, who endorsed Barack Obama for president in 2008, said that having a Black History Month was “ridiculous” and that the best way to end racism today is to “stop talking about it.” Uncle Morgan is right. But talking about "race" is the Dem's bread & butter. Gotta keep stoking that base.

August 25, 2014 at 12:24 p.m.
AgentX said...

Honestly, I got tired of reading all the middle school comments back and forth. No, nobody deserves to die for something like this. Did the officer intend to kill Mr. Brown? I seriously doubt it. That was the unfortunate consequence of the actions of both parties involved. Mr. Brown escalated himself on the police radar when he did what he did at the convenience store. It certainly didn't help matters any when he acted the way he did to the police officer. So, the police officer has now approached someone that is wanted for the incident at the store. He isn't cooperating initially (and only presumably later). He gets physical with a cop and the police officer uses potentially deadly force to neutralize the threat. If you've ever been to a gun range and fired a gun, you know it isn't easy hitting bulls-eye on a motionless paper target, much less a moving target. Again, I don't believe the officer fired with the intent of killing Mr. Brown. Now, all that aside, what was the root cause of the entire event that unfolded that day in the street? My belief is that had Mr. Brown not done what he did in the store, the rest of the story would have been completely different. But, if he was such a fine individual, why would he have done such a thing in the first place?

August 25, 2014 at 12:31 p.m.
conservative said...

INQUIRINGMIND

You are one brazen liar!

You just wrote at 11:39:

"You clearly call Jesus' words a perversion in this sentence, or you are a sloppy writer trying to make some other point about perversion."

No,you lied, I clearly wrote that your mentor, John Crossan, was perverting Scripture and then I cited HIS words where HE did just that.

I put HIS words in quotes. They were not my words. I then cited the article containing HIS words.

August 25, 2014 at 12:40 p.m.
alprova said...

Poor pitiful whiner posted: "Alpo, you can re-post those tired, hackneyed links till the cows come home. They won't change the fact that you're a monumental liar and libeler."

And what you will never understand is that those "lies" will forever and a day have emanated from YOUR computer...not mine.

I did not lie. You did. I did not libel. You did...on yourself.

QUIT LYING AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN LIES!!

August 25, 2014 at 12:59 p.m.
alprova said...

The BIG Whiner wrote: "Unlike you, liar, I'm not here to recruit pals. You're seriously sick. And nasty."

I'm not the one who was defrocked for being nasty. You were.

August 25, 2014 at 1:01 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

connie you can't change what you wrote except by a retraction.

August 25, 2014 at 1:05 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

AgentX I understand your position that no body deserves to die that way, but you are laboring under rumor that the Chief of Police specifically denies: He said the officer had no knowledge of the incident at the convenience store. In other words, what ever reason the officer decided to shoot only had to do with the situation at the time of the incident for which there are eye witnesses.

August 25, 2014 at 1:11 p.m.
conservative said...

INQUIRINGMIND

I do not need to retract.

Here is my 7:45 comment:

inquringmind

I have been reading some of your mentor John Crossan.

This is one deceiving heathen you have latched on to.

I see where you got your knack for perverting Scripture.

Here is one of his milder perversions:

"The historical Jesus launched a non-violent revolution against violent imperialism (excuse that redundancy) in its contemporary Roman incarnation. In John's climactic parable, Pilate and Jesus are imagined in conversation and Jesus explains that, "My kingdom is not from this world. If my kingdom were from this world, my followers would be fighting to keep me from being handed over" (18:36). Clear enough: Your Kingdom of Rome, Pilate, is based on violence; the Kingdom of God is not, and will not use violence even to free me."

http://www.patheos.com/Progressive-Christian/Character-Christian-God-John-Dominic-Crossan-09-09-2013?offset=1&max=1

August 25, 2014 at 7:45 a.m.

August 25, 2014 at 1:13 p.m.
conservative said...

INQUIRINGMIND

You have to think that people are dumber than a box of rocks when you tried to pull that one off.

August 25, 2014 at 1:16 p.m.
alprova said...

Connie, you will forever remain a legend in your own mind.

Could the possibly be a more controversial heathen pretending to be a Christian? I don't see how that is possible. Take a bow. You're out on a limb all by yourself.

You need to pay attention to your online gay porn site. Gotta keep that money rollin' in.

August 25, 2014 at 1:26 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Defrocked, Alpo? Let's see some proof. You just prove my point. Daily.

August 25, 2014 at 2:09 p.m.
Ki said...

Agents said: "brown escalated the situation on the police radar when he did what he did at the convenience store"

How is that possible when the cop, Wilson, wasn't even aware of the allege convenience incident when he happened upon brown and his friend walking in the street? He confronted them for walking in the street, some say Wilson initially passed them by then came back to confront them about walking in the street. Wilson had no idea of the allege store incident prior to confronting, then shooting and killing of brown. Don't try to change the dynamics if what took place.

And although Wilson may have initially started out with a chance to harass and bully someone, when he saw that small window of opportunity to shoot, maybe he just couldn't pass on the temptation. He would just be in a sea of many out there who are ticking time bombs ready to explode without notice and little to no provocation.

August 25, 2014 at 2:36 p.m.

inq, you don't have all the facts. It's highly unlikely that Brown did absolutely nothing and Wilson just shot him because he's black. It's not a stretch to believe that Brown may have done something to the officer based on his robbery and bullying in the store. His behavior is questionable. What history does Wilson have of bad behavior?

August 25, 2014 at 2:39 p.m.

Ki, your last paragraph is just flat out stupid LOL You have a lynch mob mentality.

"and although Wilson may have initially started out with a chance to harass and bully someone" LOL...you mean like Brown bullied the store workers in the store he robbed?

"he couldn't pas on the temptation" Stupid.

August 25, 2014 at 2:48 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

So Alprova. Where is the proof? Hmmmm?

August 25, 2014 at 2:49 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z-fister what I said (not in the exact words) was the officer had no knowledge of any convenience store activity, and anything that happened on the street happened due to action of the officer was solely as a result of the events of the confrontation. The events of the confrontation at the time of death show the kid being a distance away from the officer, first having run from the officer (not a justification for deadly force), possibly running at the officer head down after possibly being shot at least once in the hand, but unarmed as evidenced by his arms and hands in the air.

It is to your credit that you aren't jumping all over the boy like some others are, but...

You are simply water-cooler speculating, i.e., gossiping, "It's not a stretch to believe that Brown may have done something," justifying another to speculate, "The cop just wanted to kill a Negro so he made up a story, after all, he has some murky history in his earlier employment as a policeman, and Ferguson has a history of bad relations between the white police force and predominately African American public."

Neither conclusion is warranted until ALL the facts are in, and unfortunately in Ferguson, it appears we will never see all the facts because it is in the grand jury. Sometimes the police and DA have to go the extra mile (and sometimes they do).

August 25, 2014 at 2:59 p.m.

What does "murky" mean? Maybe he got tired of working there, or maybe he wanted more money?

Give examples of their bad history? Such as?

August 25, 2014 at 3:06 p.m.
Ki said...

zabby, the fact that you would place the actions of a cop and allege criminal in the sme category speaks volumes. You're essentially admitting that cops, given the opportunuity, will indeed behave as criminals and, are in fact, no better than the average criminal on the street. Thanks for proving what many have theorized for many decades. ;)

The final shot to the top of Brown's head appears to be what's called a kill shot and is normally on purpose.

August 25, 2014 at 3:11 p.m.
Ki said...

jackzun, since you seem to want to get off the Ferguson bullet train and discuss something else, I have a topic you might be interested in pertaining to the why the surge of migrant children attempting to cross the border. Interested? in something slightly different, but still a humanitarian crisis issue? Let me know and I'll introduce and hit you back on the subject later. ;)

I may have some info that will explain why the surge in children attempting to cross the border from central america. And it's not from all central american countries, but basically coming primarily only 3 countries: Honduras, Guatamala and El Salvadore.

August 25, 2014 at 3:16 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z I read he had some controversy about his earlier job - but that is my point, I call it murky because we are dragging up hearsay, allegations and information let out for who knows what reason that may or may not have anything to do with the situation.

The facts of the situation are pretty grim, and a lot of folks are doing one of two things, neither very easy to separate; seeking justice by airing dirty laundry and protest that brought out in the police some pretty base motivations, and self-aggrandizement capitalizing on a tragedy of two families.

August 25, 2014 at 3:26 p.m.
ibshame said...

Maximus if you are who I think you are,then you are a fraud. Eventually, you are going to get busted and the people on this forum who believe you are who and what you say will be in for a surprise. Trust me on this.

August 25, 2014 at 3:29 p.m.
alprova said...

Jackie only wants to discuss his reputation.

August 25, 2014 at 3:31 p.m.
alprova said...

ibshame wrote: "Maximus if you are who I think you are,then you are a fraud."

There is no question that the person is a fraud. That person cannot tell the truth for five minutes.

"Eventually, you are going to get busted and the people on this forum who believe you are who and what you say will be in for a surprise. Trust me on this."

I think it would be a hoot to learn the truth to that poster. I'm betting he's nothing at all that he claims to be.

August 25, 2014 at 3:33 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z I apologize for it but this is the best way to show how easy it is to slur a person's reputation by seemingly possibly related facts. The NYT reported today that where the officer worked for the Jennings PD, his formative experiences in policing were in a department rift with historical racial tension, mismanagement and turmoil. One officer was fired for a wrongful shooting, and a lieutenant was accused of stealing federal funds. The department closed in the aftermath federal and state investigations into the misuse of grant money and the city entered into a contract to be policed by the county. The department used grant money to pay overtime for D.W.I. checkpoints that never took place.

Thus some one can easily present a manipulated case, He learned police work in a corrupt, racist department and kept on practicing it. Is that fair? Then why is it fair to use the young man's history to judge what happened today?

August 25, 2014 at 3:35 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, you shouldn't be allowed to post with honest people.

August 25, 2014 at 4:26 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind,

you wrote:

"I can cite numerous admonitions to avoid violence, the essence of the Cross is non-violence towards others in confidence of faith."

You could not be more wrong!

Your gross error is an attack on the person and work of Jesus Christ.

"The essence of the Cross" is that Jesus Christ paid the penalty of death for the sins all of mankind. The death we all deserve. Jesus Christ was God incarnate come to save sinful man. He was buried and rose from the grave on the third day.

All those who put their faith and trust in Him and His finished work, accept Him as their personal Savior and make Him the Lord of their life will inherit eternal life.

Your statement: "the essence of the Cross is non-violence towards others in confidence of faith," could not be more wrong and farther from the truth.

You like all Liberals/unbelievers in some form or another and to some degree or another, attack Scripture.

August 25, 2014 at 4:26 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

you wrote:

"Cite one example where Jesus exercised deadly violence or condoned its use."

See my last comment about Christ's purpose and mission.

You either deny Jesus Christ was God in the flesh or have not figured out that capital punishment was instituted by this same God before the law was even given to the nation of Israel.

Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. Genesis 9:6 KJV

August 25, 2014 at 4:47 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

cute, alpo. I thought for a second that was you whining.

August 25, 2014 at 4:56 p.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "You either deny Jesus Christ was God in the flesh or..."

Or nothing, for Jesus was not God. He could not have been God.

"No man hath ever seen God..." - John 1:18

August 25, 2014 at 5:03 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...Federal charges are completely separate from those which will or will not be filed in St. Louis County. Holder cannot try the officer for murder or any lesser crime related to the shooting. Those are state charges. Civil Rights violations are as far as the Justice Department can go.

I understand all that but as the DA knowing a parallel federal investigation was being conducted and the information shared would it not be a wise move to have the benefit of any additional facts before any decision on what charges to file? Why hurry, the cop is not going any where but to jail if guilty.

I think Wilson knew the risk of being a cop and if he lost it and did something stupid he will rightly suffer the consequences. It may not be and appears not to be a justified shooting. But, I do seriously wonder why you and ki really give a rip that a thief and bully met an untimely end. You both act as if it was the first time the poor innocent "little boy" strayed from the straight and narrow. If the cop irrationally over reacted or decided to go out that evening and kill a black person then imprison him for life or execute him but don't expect me to blubber about the dead bullying thief that was a good candidate as a future criminal taking things of more value than a $40 box of cigars.

August 25, 2014 at 5:09 p.m.
mozemoose said...

Reverse racism from a contemptible Attorney General. Well illustrated.

August 25, 2014 at 5:11 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

The brazen anti Christ Mr. Anthony Provancher just wrote:

Connie wrote: "You either deny Jesus Christ was God in the flesh or..."

Or nothing, for Jesus was not God. He could not have been God.

"No man hath ever seen God..." - John 1:18

August 25, 2014 at 5:03 p.m.

===============================

Do you see anything wrong with that?

What say you?

August 25, 2014 at 5:17 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

connie, enjoy the moment. You walk on very thin ice when you choose to live by the Law and Genesis when you have the opportunity of grace. You will die by the Law. Furthermore, Jesus was not speaking in Genesis so I'm not sure why you quote it as if Jesus said it, unless you are confused.

What is it about abstract comments in English that is too hard to understand? "The essence of the Cross is non-violence towards others in confidence of faith." ( Where I use faith in its more traditional sense as evinced by Abraham.)

Let me spell it out in more direct way for you, "The non-violence of Jesus against Rome who crucified him is concrete sign of non-violence towards neighbor and his faith in the empty cross (resurrection); and our faith in ours." Golly Gee, that sounds almost like what Crossan said in the book he co-authored!

August 25, 2014 at 5:19 p.m.
fairmon said...

Everybody is more than willing to attack the cop and at this point in time it may be he deserves it. Where is all the emotion aver the failures leading to the theft, bullying and stupidity of both the cop and dead thief and bully?

What role did the parents play and what did they do or not do that allowed this kid to behave so irresponsibly? What deficits in the weak education system contributed? What system allows kids to grow up without knowing how to work and be responsible then fails to assure they have an opportunity to do so? What is being done to provide good role models instead of some weird filthy talking and criminal advocating rapper?

The gap in kids that do learn and act responsibly and those that drop out, fail to utilize the opportunity for an education and make bad decisions is similar to the numbers in the wealthy and those at or below the poverty level. It is not limited to any race, whites have an equal percent that are future dependents and criminals.

August 25, 2014 at 5:26 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

fairmon, note I did not attack the cop. You are certainly "dead on" the symptoms you list, but simple solutions defy us. Pogo (Walt Kelly) once said, "We have met the enemy and he is us."

August 25, 2014 at 5:29 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

you wrote:

connie, enjoy the moment. You walk on very thin ice when you choose to live by the Law and Genesis when you have the opportunity of grace. You will die by the Law.

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There you go again, perverting Scripture, God's word.

God ordained the death penalty before the law, during the law and after Christ. See Romans chapter 13.

All Liberals/unbelievers in some form or another and to some degree another attack Scripture, God's word.

August 25, 2014 at 5:30 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

you wrote:

"Furthermore, Jesus was not speaking in Genesis so I'm not sure why you quote it as if Jesus said it, unless you are confused."

======================================================

Jesus is the second person of the Godhead, which you seem to deny.

Are you confused about that?

Jesus said, "I and the Father are one."

There is NO disagreement between God and Jesus Christ, they are one!

All Liberals/unbelievers in some form or another and to some degree another attack Scripture, God's word.

August 25, 2014 at 5:37 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "It may not be and appears not to be a justified shooting. But, I do seriously wonder why you and ki really give a rip that a thief and bully met an untimely end."

Because the crime he is charged with and will never be convicted of, was not worth his life. It was a misdemeanor and he received capital punishment.

"You both act as if it was the first time the poor innocent "little boy" strayed from the straight and narrow."

The boy had absolutely no prior record.

"If the cop irrationally over reacted or decided to go out that evening and kill a black person then imprison him for life or execute him but don't expect me to blubber about the dead bullying thief that was a good candidate as a future criminal taking things of more value than a $40 box of cigars."

Fairmon, I doubt you would cry if you lost someone super close to you. You don't seem to have any compassion for anyone.

August 25, 2014 at 5:42 p.m.
LibDem said...

At the funeral today, Pastor Charles Ewing said, "Michael Brown's blood is crying from the ground, crying for vengeance...". This is how you calm people down I guess.

August 25, 2014 at 5:43 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "What role did the parents play and what did they do or not do that allowed this kid to behave so irresponsibly?"

Why are you pinning it on the parents? Kids do stupid stuff all the time behind their parent's backs.

"What is being done to provide good role models instead of some weird filthy talking and criminal advocating rapper?"

Aw c'mon Fairmon...it's a black thang...

Nobody makes fun of you listening to your Perry Como records all the time, do they?

August 25, 2014 at 5:46 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

I love irony!

Here comes the brazen anti Christ Mr. Anthony Christ denying that Jesus was God incarnate, a blasphemy he heard often when he was with the Mormon cult.

He wrote once again:

"Or nothing, for Jesus was not God. He could not have been God."

"No man hath ever seen God..." - John 1:18

===============================

The irony?

The rest of the verse which he omitted is one of the proofs that Jesus Christ was God incarnate, God in the flesh.

Oh the wonderful irony!

August 25, 2014 at 5:46 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Rap sux, Alpo. As do you.

August 25, 2014 at 5:49 p.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." There is NO disagreement between God and Jesus Christ, they are one!"

Ah...but you should have read on in that chapter, for all becomes crystal clear...

John 10:36-38 "36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?"

37 "Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father."

38 "But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”..."

God being in him and him being in God does not make the one and the same.

You are in your father as he is in you, but you are not YOUR father, are you?

Sorry...I guess that's too deep a subject for you to comprehend, isn't it?

Jesus was not God.

August 25, 2014 at 5:57 p.m.
ibshame said...

LibDem you forgot the rest of his sermon(see I watched it from start to the time they entered the cemetery). He said his blood cried out for vengeance and JUSTICE. The best speech of the service came from Rev. Al Sharpton. His was addressed to the protestors as much about what they shouldn't be doing as what they should be doing.

August 25, 2014 at 6:07 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

You wrote:

"Our willingness to kill to defend our family, dear lady, is based on our greed to hold onto them against a divine plan."

That is mind boggling! That is mind boggling ignorance!

followed by:

"Since everything under the sun is ordained by God, obviously one who resists God's plan this way does not trust God because they seek to counter God's will in preference to their own (See Jer 1:4-5b)."

That is just more perversion and dumb too!

First, you can't see that defending your life, your family, and the death penalty ordained by God throughout Scripture is God's will!

That heretic John Crossan has really brainwashed you.

Second is next.

August 25, 2014 at 6:07 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Ben Carson recently won a straw poll in, I believe, Iowa. Cue the relentless and vicious attacks from the Left.

August 25, 2014 at 6:07 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, a chronic liar and libeler should not be talking theology. Just unseemly.

August 25, 2014 at 6:08 p.m.
conservative said...

Inquiringmind

Second, I told you there would be a second:

God used Israel to destroy the heathen Gentile nations and gave and promised the land to the Jews.

God destroyed (killed, applied HIS death penalty) the Gentile nations because of their idolatry and their sexual immorality of which Homosexuality/sodomy was prominent.

August 25, 2014 at 6:18 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

You wrote:

Let me spell it out in more direct way for you, "The non-violence of Jesus against Rome who crucified him is concrete sign of non-violence towards neighbor and his faith in the empty cross (resurrection); and our faith in ours." Golly Gee, that sounds almost like what Crossan said in the book he co-authored!

==============================

Yes, like I already figured out, John Crossan your mentor, is a heretic who denies the Resurrection and perverts the Gospel like you do.

All Liberals/unbelievers in some form or another, to some degree or another attack Scripture, the word of God.

August 25, 2014 at 6:33 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

You have perverted God's teaching on the gross sin of Homosexuality/sodomy and continue to pervert the meaning of Scripture in other areas as well.

I believe you are a single because of your beliefs on sexual perversion and this outrageous statement:

"To kill someone to protect your own family, self or possessions reduces you to the same level as your adversary."

You are out there, really out there. If I were a bettor, I would bet you got that outrageous nonsense from your mentor John Crossan.

If you had a family, whose lives could be saved by you from a would be attacker you say you would not intervene.

Well, you might be that evil but I am certain that you would do violence to an attacker determined to kill you.

I guess I should just laugh at you but I am on a roll destroying you so why stop.

August 25, 2014 at 6:52 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

You wrote:

"To kill someone to protect your own family, self or possessions reduces you to the same level as your adversary."

Please tell me if anyone, here or anywhere, other than your mentor, John Crossan has ever said the same.

August 25, 2014 at 7:08 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Wow eight Molotov cocktails from connie in less than 2 hours! I will simply say to read Jesus backwards into the Old Testament is a common flaw of many fundamentalists. It fails to take into account the richness of the OT relationship between God and Humanity and the profound change, dare I say almost reversal of the mind of God in the NT where violence in any form is eschewed. To impute a taste for killing in Paul, the man who encouraged love at any cost as far as one is able, who despised and detested congregational discord, is the highest form of heresy and distortion of scriptures. It actually offers a convenient and merciful way for me to finally leave connie to her anger and hostility.

Peace be with you connie, dear girl,and try to stay away from June and the girl who visited UTC last year.

Now, where is my wife...

August 25, 2014 at 7:45 p.m.
conservative said...

INQUIRINGMIND

You have that mumbo jumbo down pat!

I guess I should think you for all your nonsense today. I love exposing you Liberals/unbelievers when try to deceive others.

You might not believe Scripture but I am certain you will believe this:

I will quote you again.

August 25, 2014 at 7:54 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Oh connie a post script on the difficulty of following the non-violent teachings of Jesus:

Matt 10:37-39: "Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever does not take up the cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Those who find their life will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake will find it."

Matt 15:8-9: "This people honors me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching human precepts as doctrines."

Matt. 18:21-22   Then Peter came and said to him, “Lord, if another member of the church sins against me, how often should I forgive? As many as seven times?” Jesus said to him, “Not seven times, but, I tell you, seventy-seven times."

Mark 10: 29-30: Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields, for my sake and for the sake of the good news, who will not receive a hundredfold now in this age—houses, brothers and sisters, mothers and children, and fields with persecutions—and in the age to come eternal life."

Luke 9:59-62: "To another he said, “Follow me.” But he said, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.” But Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead; but as for you, go and proclaim the kingdom of God.” Another said, “I will follow you, Lord; but let me first say farewell to those at my home.” Jesus said to him, “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God.”

Don't ever pause to look back, you know who turned into a pillar of salt. Peace connie, peace to you.

August 25, 2014 at 8:02 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind

Now, you need to believe that Scripture as well as the rest of the Bible.

Quoting is not believing.

August 25, 2014 at 8:05 p.m.
alprova said...

Mr. Defrocked wrote: "Alpo, a chronic liar and libeler should not be talking theology. Just unseemly"

You would know all about unseemly behavior, wouldn't you? Defrocked, excommunicated, and banished for life. That's you through and though, and you love saddling others with your sins, but you're just a wee bit too stupid to pull it off.

August 25, 2014 at 8:08 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Enlighten us fat al, about that defrocking/excommunication. We wait.

August 25, 2014 at 8:28 p.m.
Ki said...

fairymon ask: "What role did the parents play and what did they do or not do that allowed this kid to behave so irresponsibky?"

Well, fairy, if you're going to ask that question of Michael Brown's parents you should do the of Wilson's. Let see, Wilson's mom was convicted of stealing and forgery in 2001 specifically from a neighbor who considered Wilson's mom a friend. She stole the neighbor's identity, opened credit cards in the neighbors name. Got access to the neighbor's bank account. According to a NYT investigation. See more @ NYT

August 25, 2014 at 8:28 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Some lies are more evil than others, Provancher. You'll have to answer for these.

August 25, 2014 at 8:31 p.m.

Jack, I think Carson is great. A brilliant, hard working, normal man who isn't a career politician. That would be a breath of fresh air compared to the stale, foul, corrupt, narcissistic, diseased, incestious elitists that we normally have to pick from.

August 25, 2014 at 8:39 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

True that, zab.

August 25, 2014 at 8:44 p.m.

Yes, Ki, we must go all out to defame and smear Wilson in order to make sure he doesn't get a fair shake. Smearing him doesn't make Brown look any better in that vid. Still waiting for you to give us your pic so we can decide what you are. You know, since you're so good at deciding what someone's features mean. You wrote that Wilson's features indicate he's probably a neo nazi ss stormtrooper.

Wilson's mother has nothing to do with anything, but Brown's bullying and robbing does tell me he's no "gentle giant" LOL

August 25, 2014 at 8:45 p.m.

But, Jack, Ben Carson is just an "uncle tom" right? According to the Democratic Party plantation owners on this site. I wonder what BO is?

Ben Carson is exactly what this country needs.

August 25, 2014 at 8:53 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

If Carson runs, the Left will brutalize him. Sadly.

August 25, 2014 at 8:56 p.m.
Ki said...

Nope, zabby. If you'd take the time to scroll up a tad, you will find where fairmon was questioning the parenting skills of Brown's parents. You know that same old usual when the issue is a black. No one ever questioned the parenting skills of the parents of Harris and kleibold. But when its black either the parents are damned or the entire race is.

August 25, 2014 at 8:56 p.m.
Ki said...

I disagree, jackzun . if Carson runs it's his own republicans who will devour him because they want jeb bush to run. They're slready knocking out potential fellow repub candidates one by one.

yo' jaczee, you never said if you wanted the info on migrant children crossing the border and what's believed to have caused it. Unless I overlooked it or sumthin'

August 25, 2014 at 8:59 p.m.
ibshame said...

Fairmon made a statement about Michael Brown's parents and their responsibility in raising him, so Ki comes back with info on Wilson's mom and her police record then fister decides the parents of Wilson are being smeared to prevent Wilson from getting a FAIR shake. This goes back to something Rev Sharpton said today during the funeral: Why are the people holding up signs for Wilson called supporters while the people speaking out for justice for Michael Brown called rioters? Wilson shot that kid in cold blood and NOTHING is going to change that. He won't ever be convicted but that doesn't make him any less guilty.

August 25, 2014 at 9:05 p.m.

Oh, there's no doubt that the stupid RINOS/country club republicans will try and go the incestious and elitist route and most likely push for Jeb Bush, or some other nimrod like him. They think because Bush speaks spanish and he said illegal alien invaders came here out of love, it means he'll win.

But, I think something else will happen. I think Rand Paul or someone else, Ben Carson, may surprise. Rand Paul will be more popular with younger people than Hillary.

Ki, I don't know about anyone else, but I sure as hell questioned the parenting skills of Harris and Kleibold, and the parenting skills of that lunatic in Sandy Hook.

August 25, 2014 at 9:08 p.m.
ibshame said...

Carson will be just like Mr. 999 , an also ran. LOL Dems don't have to lift a finger, just sit back and watch the show like they did in 2012.

August 25, 2014 at 9:09 p.m.

Because, ibshame, Wilson's supporters aren't rioting looting and destroying property. If they did all that, they'd be called rioters.

How do you know he won't be convicted?

August 25, 2014 at 9:11 p.m.

Rand Paul has more appeal to younger voters than Hillary does. Hillary is just some old lady celebrity to younger voters. You might as well run Barbara Walters. I think BO will sabotage Hillary's run, if she runs.

August 25, 2014 at 9:13 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Not so sure Jeb will be the man. Hope not. Kizun , I'm all ears on the migrant kids.

August 25, 2014 at 9:15 p.m.

conservative wrote:

"God destroyed (killed, applied HIS death penalty) the Gentile nations because of their idolatry and their sexual immorality of which Homosexuality/sodomy was prominent."

So Jehovah is as obsessed with penises as you?

I suggest no one drops the soap in the heavenly showers. Jehovah and Conservative may be looking to make you "squeal like a pig."

One thing you can say for Conservative. He's studied more penises than a urologist.

August 25, 2014 at 9:16 p.m.

No way the electorate will go for another Bush, no way.

August 25, 2014 at 9:18 p.m.

zableedofisterix said... "No way the electorate will go for another Bush, no way."

From Conservative's constant penis talk, I don't think he goes for bush either.

August 25, 2014 at 9:20 p.m.
Ki said...

Will do! jaczee. On the migrant children issue and how it got this far. I'll get the info together and post excerpts tomorrow. But the migration and why isn't new, it began to escalate back around 2000 and 2001. At the moment violence is the primary driving force brought about by weapons flooding those three countries I mentioned previously . Many of those children already have relatives, some parents, living/working in the U.S. Politics is also a driving force behind the problem too. Hitch a back in the issue tomorrow.

g'night all/ be nice NOT ;)

August 25, 2014 at 9:43 p.m.
fairmon said...

ki fruit said....Well, fairy, if you're going to ask that question of Michael Brown's parents you should do the of Wilson's. Let see, Wilson's mom was convicted of stealing and forgery in 2001 specifically from a neighbor who considered Wilson's mom a friend. She stole the neighbor's identity, opened credit cards in the neighbors name. Got access to the neighbor's bank account.

What is the point? Do you mean he is a product of the same type deficiencies that likely produced the bullying thief that he killed? Does that change the answer to the questions? Had you rather treat the disease or just keep dealing with the symptoms? More welfare and dependency should give some temporary relief. Don't get your drawers in a wad that is not a racial comment since more whites are gaming the system than any race. There are a lot of white thieves and bullies also and my sympathy would be just as little for them if they met a similar ending.

August 25, 2014 at 10:02 p.m.
fairmon said...

You both act as if it was the first time the poor innocent "little boy" strayed from the straight and narrow."

alprova said.....The boy had absolutely no prior record.

I see. He was not and probably would not have had a record of the theft and bullying incident. Your comment says you are among the it is ok as long as I don't get caught. It is not likely the bully for the first time thought he would bully and scare someone and steal their merchandise. BS! One thing for sure, he will not be a repeat offender.

August 25, 2014 at 10:10 p.m.
alprova said...

The ultimate whiner wrote: "Enlighten us fat al, about that defrocking/excommunication. We wait."

Who's this "we" stuff? No one gives a damn but you. It's YOUR problem. Quit attempting to act as if the peanut gallery gives a crap about the accuracy of your past.

"Some lies are more evil than others, Provancher. You'll have to answer for these."

A lie is a lie. There is no such thing as a sin worse than another. I will answer to just as many sins as you will answer for.

Holier than thou people are hilarious!!

August 25, 2014 at 10:55 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-an wrote: "But, I think something else will happen. I think Rand Paul or someone else, Ben Carson, may surprise. Rand Paul will be more popular with younger people than Hillary"

Rand Paul has as much chance of being elected nationwide as President as you do.

August 25, 2014 at 11:01 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "No way the electorate will go for another Bush, no way."

You need to go ahead and expand that to "no way will the electorate for a Republican...period."

August 25, 2014 at 11:04 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "I see. He was not and probably would not have had a record of the theft and bullying incident."

Who knows? All they had was a video of a man with no record. Would he have been caught and associated with the theft? Possibly. He WAS connected to it after he was dead.

"Your comment says you are among the it is ok as long as I don't get caught. It is not likely the bully for the first time thought he would bully and scare someone and steal their merchandise. BS!"

The most likely scenario is that he may have been guilty of stealing many times but had never been caught. This time he was caught and it was on video. Was he a repetitive bully? Probably not, as he likely was not caught before.

"One thing for sure, he will not be a repeat offender."

I don't understand how one can be so cavalier about a life. Of course, since you don't personally know the boy, you can be severely detached from his death, especially in the manner it was taken.

Some sentiment is better if one never expresses it. But you're probably one of those people who doesn't give a damn what others think of you, and you sure don't believe in Karma.

Sooner or later, you will lose someone close to you, and it will be your turn to grieve. Will that loved one be murdered? Karma has a way of waking people up to face their worst nightmares, head on.

Because I have had to endure my own various penances throughout my life, I tend to be a bit more reserved in my opinions of others.

You're not there yet, but you will be, one day.

August 25, 2014 at 11:18 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Fat Alpo, the notorious liar says "Because I have had to endure my own various penances throughout my life, I tend to be a bit more reserved in my opinions of others.: Q: What's worse than a habitual liar? A: A sanctimonious habitual liar. Be warned, folks. This guy is toxic.*

August 25, 2014 at 11:41 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo says (of Maximus) "I think it would be a hoot to learn the truth to that poster. I'm betting he's nothing at all that he claims to be." duh, Sherlock

August 25, 2014 at 11:51 p.m.

Rand Paul will be far more popular with younger voters in the next two years. Hillary will become less and less popular.

August 25, 2014 at 11:51 p.m.

"i don't know how one can be so cavalier about a life" Really?

60 million of them have been snuffed out since RvW.

If there's such thing as Karma, wow, 60 million worth. That's going to hurt.

August 25, 2014 at 11:57 p.m.
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