published Sunday, June 15th, 2014

Cycling editorial makes unfair comparison and other letters to the editors

Cycling editorial makes unfair comparison

A promising young cycling champion recovers in a hospital bed here, and to use his crash during competition (which has nothing to do with recreational cyclists going up the mountain) as an opportunity to jump back on your pet peeve (“Stop the cycle,” Times, 5-31) is nothing short of disgraceful. You talk about safety, but I suspect the real issue is that you’ve had to slow down a few times behind some riders on your way home.

But if safety is such a concern, let’s ban tractor-trailers, because they also go too slow uphill and they wreck and kill people all the time. And while we are at it, lets get rid of trains, because sometimes people are in a hurry and try to beat the train at the crossing and die. And let’s not allow school buses either; they are an awful inconvenience when we have to stop behind them as they let off their young passengers (who occasionally are struck and, sadly, lose their lives). Let’s see — pedestrians need to go away as well; they make us stop when they cross the road, and recently a few of them died when we could not slow down in time.

R.J. CLAPP, Ooltewah

Draft logic doesn’t fly

Here we go again, someone thinks the government needs to get involved. In regards to Mr Sutton’s comment regarding a military draft, just think of MASH 4077 — where the characters consumed alcohol while on duty overseas in a war zone. Sorry, I don’t want my son or daughter serving with those kind of clowns. If ever you feel there should be a forced service in our armed forces — a draft — please try to imagine yourself in the service as a chief petty officer or gunnery sergeant, E-7. You have a 20-man division/company of anywhere between 19-year-olds and mid-30-year-olds. Some are trying to make a career out of the service while others are just waiting their time to finish off their draft. Guess who gets most of the attention? You guessed right if you answered the draftees. They will be the squeaky wheel always needing grease. The careerists will have to take a back seat while the CPO/gunny tends to the grease.

JOHN LOPEZ, Ooltewah

Angelou death deserved better coverage

I was both surprised and disappointed that it was not on the front page of our stellar newspaper that I read of the death of Maya Angelou. The article noting the loss of this talented and remarkable woman, poet, author and true American icon was relegated to Page 4. Stories concerned with sexual battery, murder, spying and Cialis OTC took editorial precedence on Page One on May 29. In my opinion, news of the death and loss of this exceptional American writer and citizen, who spoke in our city several times, deserved a place on the front page of the Chattanooga Times Free Press.


Share the road, it’s the law

Your editorial on why cyclists should stay off the W Road and other local mountain climbs was symptomatic of why there are accidents in the first place. Disregarding the inane and illogical, apples-to-oranges comparison of Tyler Phinney’s crash during the National Cycling Championship to the safety of local riders, the editorial perpetuates a “you don’t belong here” attitude that, frankly, continues to endanger cyclists daily. When you assume that cars and trucks receive the legal stamp of approval but cyclists are second-class citizens not deserving of your patience and courtesy, you give tacit approval to treat them as such.


What was Obama thinking?

I have, until now, voted Democrat on the national ticket, but I cannot bring myself to do so again unless whoever the candidate is disavows herself/himself from this egregious mistake. Our president conducts a Rose Garden ceremony to welcome home a wartime deserter, whose conduct cost the lives of six of his fellow soldiers! National Security Advisor Susan Rice tells us this deserter served with “honor and distinction!” Our secretary of defense praises the action which gave our enemy, in their leader’s opinion, a “great victory?” This outrage is further exacerbated by the release of five upper echelon terrorists the president and his advisors had previously determined to be too dangerous to be considered. What in the world were these people thinking?

Sure, it’s great that Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl is no longer a prisoner, but he should, under no circumstances, be welcomed back as some kind of hero.


Fox News is fair and balanced

Walter Benton’s letter in the May 31 “Your Community/Your Voice” section saying, “Hate radio and Fox News are some of the most destructive entities ever unleashed on our country!” makes me wonder if he has ever watched Fox News.

He continued with, “With their hateful divisive lies, ” and this requires me to ask him to list a few of these lies. Fox News tries to be, as they say, fair and balanced, and they try to get both sides of a story by inviting in people with different views.

Mr. Benton, have you watched Megyn Kelly’s “The Kelly File” or “The O’Reilly Factor” with Bill O’Reilly?

They have invited James Carville, the Democratic strategist, who has signed on with Fox News as a contributor, and Alan Colmes, a liberal political commentator. This seems to me to be an attempt to be fair and balanced.

I would like to see a list of some of the hateful divisive lies to which you alluded.

G.P. TULLOSS, Cleveland, Tenn.

More ‘Monty’ cartoons

Without a doubt, the best cartoon in your paper is “Monty,” located in the classified section. It probably makes more sense to say, “located in the classified section now and then.” The Monty cartoon continues a story line every day. However, for some unknown reason, it’s there one day and gone the next. That leaves your “Monty” followers up in the air. Lately, you have added a long series of cartoons in the classified section. Two words: stupid, terrible.

Please get Monty back on schedule every day.

TOM RANDALL, Calhoun, Ga.

Try this ice experiment

Recently a TFP article reported on a study that says that over the next 200 years ocean water will get warmer and melt all the Antarctic ice shelves, causing global sea levels to rise by 10 feet. Ocean water can only melt ice that is in the water, and even if all the floating antarctic ice melts, global sea levels will not change. Prove it for yourself. Put ice in a measuring cup. Add water until the ice is floating. Add more water until the water level reaches a convenient mark on the cup. (Any mark will do.) Let all the ice melt. Observe the water level. It didn’t change, did it? And that is how much ocean levels will change if all the floating ice melts.

Conclusion: sea levels won’t change at all from melting the ice that is already in the water. Cancel alarm. Exit.

Just for fun: Stick your finger in the water and see how warm it is. It got cold! How odd! Melting ice cools water!

Note: The ice that would raise sea levels if it melts is sitting on land and is out of the reach of sea water but is subject to hot air.


Thoughts on schools, and the Ad Council

Two little items need attention. First, when private schools run out of money, they cut back their staff and work harder. When government schools need money, they offer free college and roll the bill onto the backs of the taxpayer.

Secondly, Mr. Walter Benton’s letter of May 31 decries the fact Rush Limbaugh is on the Armed Forces radio. What hypocrisy! Has he ever considered how many millions the taxpayer has to fork over to fund the Ad Council? This massive Goliath subsidizes media with their slick inducements for more government involvement. Federal bureaucracies, in cooperation with the Ad Council, field their wares, all on the back of the taxpayer. Would Mr. Benton like to compare prices!

JUNE GRIFFIN, Dayton, Tenn.

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librul said...

So Eric Ashby apparently watched Mr. Wizard as a kid and has revived some oldie-but-goodie science experiments. Earth to Eric - not all the melting ice in the world is "floating ice".

There is also melting happening on the ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica as well ...

"Together, the Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets contain more than 99 percent of the freshwater ice on Earth. The Antarctic Ice Sheet extends almost 14 million square kilometers (5.4 million square miles), roughly the area of the contiguous United States and Mexico combined. The Antarctic Ice Sheet contains 30 million cubic kilometers (7.2 million cubic miles) of ice. The Greenland Ice Sheet extends about 1.7 million square kilometers (656,000 square miles), covering most of the island of Greenland, three times the size of Texas." -- National Snow and Ice Data Center.

Research those for us, Mr. Wizard.

OH, and G.P. Tulloss ..... ROTFLMFAO.

June 15, 2014 at 1:38 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Mr. Science forgot to mention loss of albedo and how sea ice provides a platform that holds land based ice up.

June 15, 2014 at 7:14 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

John Lopez, you are sadly mistaken if you think that just because our troops volunteered they are the cream of the crop. Oh sure, practically every one of them would no doubt say that they joined out of a love for country, but the truth is that many of them joined because it was the only way to find a job with benefits in this depressed economy. And then, there are those young people who join for the sheer "adventure" of it, regardless of the fact that that adventure happens to be WAR (such is the naiveté of youth). Then, too, you have those young men who think of war as the ultimate adventure anyway, as a rite of passage to manhood. Add to the mix those with a sense of blood-lust, itching to have a license to kill (I lost count of how many times I heard young men saying, while the Vietnam war was raging, "I can't wait to get over there and kill me some go#ks!), and you have a motley crew of combatants that are not necessarily the "best and the brightest." Not to detract from those who do join out of a deep sense of patriotism, but the percentage of those altruistic members is probably lower than those who join for ulterior motives.

One of the drawbacks to an all-volunteer military is that few soldiers are willing to speak out and tell the truth about what's really happening on the front lines or in the trenches. They don't want the added shame of appearing fickle or of backing out of a commitment. It makes it much easier for the military-industrial complex to exist and thrive because they have willing dupes to do their bidding with little chance of them making the public aware of just how senseless or nefarious the war is. And at least a draft forces the entire populace to have a vested interest in the war, making it less likely for the public to sit passively by, not questioning war's justification.

Note: the TFP's moderators/censors wouldn't allow me to print the actual word I intended to use so I had to type it as "go#ks." Those of you too young to have been around while the Vietnam war was going on might not be familiar with that word. It rhymes with "spooks." Or, replace the # with an "o" and you have it.

June 15, 2014 at 1:02 p.m.
Landgrabbr said...


NOTE to TFP moderators/censors: I do not understand, maybe because I am a a mix of spic and guinea. Can I correctly say chigger, then suggest replacement of "ch" to a "n" and then post on the TFP editorial comment page? Please there is no need to provide corrective instruction. Young people have enough distractions with school, work, telephones and sexting. Hell, we all know the slang words. Who are we trying to kid anyway???!!!

June 15, 2014 at 2:24 p.m.
Ki said...

Doesn't matter what you're "mixed" with. We're all mixed with something other than what our physical appearance dictate. It's a matter of respect when ignorance drops by. Plus, there's no way for TFP to know who or what someone maybe from their typing from keyboard and hiding behind a screen name. Even still, no matter who or what one profess to be ethnic and racial insults should not be allowed. The same as it wouldn't be acceptable to allow someone to call your mother, sister, daughter or you, if you're female a "b" or "w" on their forum.

June 15, 2014 at 4:14 p.m.
Ki said...

Rick my response was to Landrbr. I'm old enough to remember the word you're talking about, and I understand your use of it was primarily a quote and a teachable moment and to be misunderstaken for an insult o your part. There is a profound difference others tend to or pretend to miss. I too can recall a young man being interviewed on national TV being asked why he was enlisting during the height of the Iraq saga under Bush and his exact words are "I want to shoot someone." I was shocked by his words, and expected the interviewer to be shocked too. Instead both the interviewer and the young man seemed proud by his words. That young man should been immediately disqualified from enlisting, but it's doubtful he was. Those were the types and mindsets that went into the situation and became thrill killers or helped to create the Abu Ghraib scandal or went berserk and were shooting up buildings and gunning down fellow soldiers there. I often wonder where is that same young man today.

June 15, 2014 at 6:26 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Ki, what was particularly troubling to me was that the overzealous enlistees, or willing draftees, did not even seem to differentiate between the known enemy (N. Vietnamese) and the S. Vietnamese, as if all Asians or Vietnamese in general were scum and needed to be eradicated. Of course, the North Vietnamese were not necessarily "bad", or at least no worse than the South Vietnamese. But because the American government had determined that Communism was evil, then the N. Vietnamese were therefore targeted as the "enemy." It was all around a stupid, senseless, unjustifiable war, waged purely on the premise of what MIGHT happen if we did not stop Vietnam from becoming a Communist country. And we are doing the same damn thing now in our "war on terror." We have fought 2 wars (and are still fighting in one of them) based purely on the premise of what MIGHT happen if we don't have boots on the ground in countries where we have no business. And as huge as the death toll of innocent Iraqis and Afghanis has been, most Americans are unfazed by it because it is only "collateral damage" after all, and the lives of tribal peoples in faraway lands don't really to matter to them.

June 15, 2014 at 8:56 p.m.


Just tell the truth: Spinning by White House, climate scientists Global Warming will certainly wipe out this generation, or maybe the next one, I'm not sure. But, RUN FOR THE HILLS!Because Jesus Christ can no longer take care of this planet which some say He has kept turning for millions of years, right? +(:>. Maybe He can still do His job? What think You?

Malleus Deum

June 15, 2014 at 9:11 p.m.


Just tell the truth: Spinning by White House, climate scientists FACT@@@FACT@@@FACT

"The Southern Hemisphere polar ice cap for the month of April 2014 surpassed its greatest April extent in recorded history. The new record extends a long-term expansion of the Antarctic ice sheet that defies alarmist claims that global warming is or should be melting the polar ice caps."

June 15, 2014 at 9:14 p.m.


Al Gore’s global-warming rhetoric is put on ice By Andrea Peyser February 17, 2014 | 12:09am

The “entire North Polar ice cap will be gone in five years,’’ Gore, now 65, told a German TV audience in 2008. Wrong.

Last month near the South Pole, a Russian ship carrying scientists and tourists traveled to the bottom of the Earth so passengers might document global warming and shrinking ice caps. But the ship got stuck on ice that was thicker than at any time since records started being kept in 1978. The warming fans were airlifted to safety by helicopter, leaving behind confused penguins!

Oh, ha, ha, ha! Someone help me hold my stomach. This belt of laughing is much too strong. Oh, wow, this is really rich. Oh, ha, ha, ha!

Yeah, choose Al Gore (and the like of his ilk) instead of Jesus Christ, who seems to know, for millions of years, how to control His planet earth.

Malleus Deum

June 15, 2014 at 9:24 p.m.


"Yeah, choose Al Gore (and the like of his ilk) instead of Jesus Christ, who seems to know, for millions of years, how to control His planet earth."

I'd rather Leave it to Beaver than Jesus. At least there's evidence of a Beaver, and none for JC.

Your science skills are as lacking as your writing ability. Then again when the Bible was your example of good fiction, I can't expect better.

Biggus Diccus

June 15, 2014 at 9:39 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

It's kinda creepy knowing that there are full-grown, adult men and women with college educations in 21st century America who honestly believe that our planet is controlled by an invisible man in the sky!

June 15, 2014 at 10:18 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

A fun fact about "Christ crucified:" The Romans forbade taking down the bodies of those they crucified. It was a strict law that they be left to hang on the crosses as a deterrent to crime and insurrection. The "divinely inspired" writers (i.e. corrupt and self-serving clergy and forgers) of the New Testament inserted the convenient story of Christ being taken down and buried in a tomb so that "prophecy" could be fulfilled. But then, the entire story is pure fabrication, so what's a little stretching of the truth when the story itself is a fairy tale?

June 15, 2014 at 10:33 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Ah, America, where an opinion based on ignorance is accepted by some above the findings of thousands of scientists who collect, analyze and publish the actual physical data. One voice, one vote.

Why don't we make everything democratic and based on public opinion? Medicine, oil exploration, crime investigation, military tactics. We can all be armchair quarterbacks.

June 16, 2014 at 7:28 a.m.
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