published Wednesday, July 28th, 2010

Voters oppose guns in restaurants

By Chas Sisk

The Tennessean

A law that allows handguns into bars and restaurants that serve alcohol is proving to be unpopular with Tennesseans.

Seven in 10 voters in a survey by Mason-Dixon Polling and Research said they oppose a law passed this year that lets people with concealed-carry permits take weapons into any establishment that sells alcohol.

Supporters say the law will make the state safer, but voters said in interviews that mixing guns and alcohol is too dangerous.

“No one wants them there,” said Carol Yager, a Brentwood woman who took part in the poll taken by Mason-Dixon for the Tennessee Newspaper Network.

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temp_employee said...

I would like to see more detail regarding the poll. An overwhelming majority of Tennesseans supported this legislation. Were the “seven in 10 voters” living in this state? This short article leaves many questions while providing few answers.

July 28, 2010 at 6:16 a.m.
enufisenuf said...

No one wants them there,” said Carol Yager, a Brentwood woman who took part in the poll taken by Mason-Dixon for the Tennessee Newspaper Network.

Do the math dummy, even if the poll wasn't jaded, three out of ten don't mind the law. Can't you read Carol? I will carry mone in those establishments and I won't fear the CCW person as much as I will the criminal who doesn't have a permit and quite likely a legal firearm.

July 28, 2010 at 6:47 a.m.
moonpie said...

Even I, who oppose this law, would agree with enufisenuf that Carol Yager's statement ignores the basic facts that many people (even if not a majority) do support the law.

I think it's telling, though, that because he disagrees with the poll results, he assumes it's jaded.

Personally, when poll stories like this are published, I wish they'd at least include a PDF of the Poll Questions and the raw data answers.

Otherwise, it's too easy to accept or reject the results if they don't coincide with our previously held wishes and beliefs - as enuf just demonstrated.

temp is on the right track requesting more information, but also demonstrated the concept by saying an overwhelming majority of Tennesseans supported this legislation. (I haven't seen the raw data on that, either.)

I'm not trying to pick on enuf or temp - I think we're all guilty of this even if we're aware of the potential bias.

July 28, 2010 at 9:03 a.m.
UU4Life said...

The madman who has an Un-Registered, Illegal, firearm in his pocket and bad intentions on his mind, does not care who wants them and who don't. Perhaps folks like Carol Yager should conduct more research into exactly what is required in order to obtain a Tennessee State Firearm carry permit. Holders of Tennessee Handgun Carry Permits are not just a bunch of irresponsible jerks waving guns around. They must take a firearms safety class where they are taught, among other things, that anytime they shoot their weapon, they are responsible for wherever that bullet ends up both legally AND financially EVEN IF; it is in self defense. So please, Carol and everyone; study before you open your mouth. Thank you!

July 28, 2010 at 10:37 a.m.
enufisenuf said...

Moon, all polls are conducted with the goal of making the outcome lean a specific direction. Look at the NRA. There polls show guns save lives, anti gun nuts have polls that show their side. I had reps from 3 phone books, (real, yellow book and talking book)all handing me studies that showed their book was the best. It;s propoganda, no matter who the poll is by.

July 28, 2010 at 11:40 a.m.
dl said...

I amazed 30% want them. I would hope it would be less than 10%.

July 28, 2010 at 12:14 p.m.
moonpie said...

enuf, I can appreciate your point of view on that. I think even independent polling agencies can introduce bias without intending to. I'm always suspect of polls, too, especially those commissioned by people with an agenda.

That's why when poll data is reported we need to see the poll, too. Otherwise, like this story, the report is not helpful to me.

July 28, 2010 at 12:26 p.m.
FM_33 said...

Criminals have come a many times into local restaurants around this city and around the state from time to time packing heat.

So why not the law abiding citizen !

July 28, 2010 at 3:07 p.m.
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